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[EuchreJack]

Also, unless FOU is a complete bastard, Toonyman is confirmed town.  Nice.

[ToonyMan]

Fourth of all, I will never include alignment conversion in a game with less than 13 players, and even when it's an option it will not be deployed in an unlimited form.

[Maximum Spin]

I am annoyed. I feel I have been underperforming myself this round and I do not like it. Too easily distracted by petty paranoia.

My gut never believed this central voyeur triangle supposedly clearing people thing to begin with. I only accepted the Toony lynch because, simply, I didn't know that Toony tends to make mistakes under threat like Jack said, so the mistakes looked suspicious to me. I usually trust my gut more than this. This is the same mistake I made last d2, basically, when I got distracted over the Tric/Vector possibility I had considered minor before.

I was not informed of being primed or poisoned or anything last night, possibly because I implied I would die from using my ability anyway.

In case it wasn't obvious, I lied about that. But I can't do that again, sadly. Sorry Tric, would if I could.

Fourth of all, I will never include alignment conversion in a game with less than 13 players, and even when it's an option it will not be deployed in an unlimited form.

Thirdly, it is possible for role flips to be obscured by a Janitor, but role flips will not lie (though let's be honest, this is just basic decency - I'm not running a bastard game).

seems at least as important.

[ToonyMan]

I am confirmed town now as well, yes Jack.

Max isn't confirmed, but I'm hard pressed to see a reason why Max would bother ressing me (or Tric if I was mafia) as mafia. Sure he could be doing it for brownie points, but the disadvantages are horrible. Although this likely means mafia are quite powerful.

[EuchreJack]

I am confirmed town now as well, yes Jack.

Max isn't confirmed, but I'm hard pressed to see a reason why Max would bother ressing me (or Tric if I was mafia) as mafia. Sure he could be doing it for brownie points, but the disadvantages are horrible. Although this likely means mafia are quite powerful.

Indeed.  I would think the last thing that Mafia would want is a player that is confirmed town.  There are a few fringe cases where they can put you back in the ground quickly AND hurt others, but frankly even one day of having a confirmed town is brutal.  So we can infer that Max is town.

So we have:
Toonyman confirmed town
Max almost certainly confirmed town
Vector very likely confirmed town
NJW seems quite likely town

[ToonyMan]

Webadict is never town in this game, ever.

I explained in my notes, but I can paste them here:

1. Why did Webadict target Vector on N1? During D1 other players made large hints that they were a type of investigator (such as Jack), but Webadict chose to "copy" Vector who had only hinted at the fact they were a doctor. Vector was a prime kill target, not a prime target for Webadict's inspection copy ability. His night-action choice makes no sense, but NJW spotted it so he chose to confirm himself on that.

2. As mafia last round I was the first vote on every mislynch that happened. This is a huge scumtell. Webadict is the same this round.

3. Town!Webadict would never misread both me and Tric like this.

4. Webadict didn't hesitate at all trying to kill me through all of D2 while I was hesitating over the fact we could both be town and team-killing each other. Hence why I unvoted him multiple times and wasn't even voting Web for end of Day 2. This shows an agenda-based play by Web which is a big scumtell. Mafia want to follow a plan they have and will only deviate if it benefits them.

I'm willing to out Roden today as well, but my vote is not leaving Webadict until he's dead.

[Vector]

I have night action news but will wait for Wubz to post.

[ToonyMan]

Not quite, Jack. Vector is basically confirmed town due to the unclaimed mafia prime unless exactly with NJW, but NJW is very very likely town as well since Web is mafia.

You and Max are a tier lower in the "probably town, but not as convincingly town as Vector/NJW".

And at the bottom are Web and Roden.

[EuchreJack]

Wow, resurrected by Max, and you still think he is below Vector in the Townie scale.  I mean, the fringe cases where Max would resurrect you as mafia would basically require your resurrection in order to proceed with the night kill in his queue of abilities, and even under that theory your resurrection is "too early".

[webadict]

Maximum Spin has Ember Tracking, which does exactly what he says it does.

Webadict is never town in this game, ever.

I explained in my notes, but I can paste them here:

1. Why did Webadict target Vector on N1? During D1 other players made large hints that they were a type of investigator (such as Jack), but Webadict chose to "copy" Vector who had only hinted at the fact they were a doctor. Vector was a prime kill target, not a prime target for Webadict's inspection copy ability. His night-action choice makes no sense, but NJW spotted it so he chose to confirm himself on that.

2. As mafia last round I was the first vote on every mislynch that happened. This is a huge scumtell. Webadict is the same this round.

3. Town!Webadict would never misread both me and Tric like this.

4. Webadict didn't hesitate at all trying to kill me through all of D2 while I was hesitating over the fact we could both be town and team-killing each other. Hence why I unvoted him multiple times and wasn't even voting Web for end of Day 2. This shows an agenda-based play by Web which is a big scumtell. Mafia want to follow a plan they have and will only deviate if it benefits them.

I'm willing to out Roden today as well, but my vote is not leaving Webadict until he's dead.

You are STILL going for me. I wish you were Mafia, I truly do.

[Maximum Spin]

Maximum Spin has Ember Tracking, which does exactly what he says it does.

Well, had.

I guess this confirms two things: that webadict does have the ability to get ability names - that is indeed the actual ability name - and that doing so does not necessarily prime people.

[EuchreJack]

Prodigious study lets someone copy an investigative ability their target has.

I think we have to vote Web, since he now has the ability to set off those who are primed.  Any flaws in this logic?

[webadict]

ToonyMan, if you fucking want to, go ahead and vote me out, but I'm not scum. I am unlikely to be able to stop you from voting me, but I'll certainly be trying.

I voted you for immensely fucking good reasons. You not being Mafia is really unfortunate, because you certainly played like you were. My reasons were sound, your play was shit, whatcha gonna do?

You fucking hounding me in spite of ALL OF THAT is why I voted you. And you're still doing it, which is great, it's gonna be a lovely Day, we get to play Fuck-Up Bros. together! Because I did say we both deserve to lose if you're Town, and frankly, it's fair. Just... peachy.

I'm gonna be voting Roden. I'm gonna do my best to deal with ToonyMan because he's in revenge mode. Oh what fun.

Maximum Spin has Ember Tracking, which does exactly what he says it does.

Well, had.

I guess this confirms two things: that webadict does have the ability to get ability names - that is indeed the actual ability name - and that doing so does not necessarily prime people.

Yes, it is indeed a one-shot for me as well (as well as the downside you stated), but I'm not sure why I'd want to use it.

Prodigious study lets someone copy an investigative ability their target has.

I think we have to vote Web, since he now has the ability to set off those who are primed.  Any flaws in this logic?

Yes. I'm not scum, and I won't be using this ability.

[EuchreJack]

Not quite, Jack. Vector is basically confirmed town due to the unclaimed mafia prime unless exactly with NJW, but NJW is very very likely town as well since Web is mafia.

You and Max are a tier lower in the "probably town, but not as convincingly town as Vector/NJW".

And at the bottom are Web and Roden.

And since I'm below Vector in the Towniness assessment of our Confirmed Townie Toonyman, I think that means I have to claim before Vector and NJW.

I inspected NJW, and nobody targeted NJW.

[EuchreJack]

@Web: Ok, assume I believe you are not scum.  Who is partners with Roden? Why?
I'm pretty sure you have to find Roden's partner to not get voted today.