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Author Topic: Roguelike Mafia 7 - The Fall [Game over]  (Read 49239 times)

ToonyMan

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Re: Roguelike Mafia 7 - Free Range Murder [Day 3]
« Reply #615 on: June 06, 2021, 03:06:32 am »

@FallacyofUrist:
You're my #1 scum pick. Who's the mafia and why?

You say you only had a Potion of Volume last night and thus had no night action last night, this lines up with my own action.

@TricMagic:
Were you redirected to FoU or did you target them anyway?
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Jim Groovester

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Re: Roguelike Mafia 7 - Free Range Murder [Day 3]
« Reply #616 on: June 06, 2021, 03:17:01 am »

If it's FoU or Tric how did they get around my redirect?
What are the odds that Webadict killed himself to get out of the game?

Scroll of Command counts as a redirect like Scroll of Attraction does. Maybe web won the random roll?

Full-Claim:

I'm game but falling asleep at my computer right now.

I randomed Scavenger so I have a bunch of items but only used Scroll of Hallucination on NQT on N1 and Scroll of Protection on NQT on N2.
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I understood nothing, contributed nothing, but still got to win, so good game everybody else.

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Re: Roguelike Mafia 7 - Free Range Murder [Day 3]
« Reply #617 on: June 06, 2021, 04:01:02 am »

Intriguing. I picked random and got given Scavenger. It's not inconceivable this could happen twice.

D1: Randomised Bluarian
D2: Protected Toonyman

I'm surprised Web was picked as a couple of players were suspicious of him.
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Re: Roguelike Mafia 7 - Free Range Murder [Day 3]
« Reply #618 on: June 06, 2021, 08:02:03 am »

:(

I couldn't keep Web alive...

I grabbed a Scroll of Attraction from the public item pool and targeted FoU and TricMagic with it. This means it's unlikely either one of them killed Web unless they got around my redirect somehow. I still have the second charge on my Wand of Paralysis, I figured I wouldn't use it since I got the Attraction scroll.

If it's FoU or Tric how did they get around my redirect?

I didn't, given my Scroll of Ill Will ended up striking FoU instead of Webadict. So naturally that clears three people from this kill.

... NQT, based upon this it's between you and Jim. Nowhere to run, since if we miss, we still have tomorrow, barring a daykill weapon.
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Re: Roguelike Mafia 7 - Free Range Murder [Day 3]
« Reply #619 on: June 06, 2021, 08:22:51 am »

Ugh... I'm of the opinion we should skip this day, FoU, can I ask what effect was applied to you?
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Re: Roguelike Mafia 7 - Free Range Murder [Day 3]
« Reply #620 on: June 06, 2021, 08:24:04 am »

Note that if you get it wrong or don't answer... Let's just say it will end badly for you.
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Re: Roguelike Mafia 7 - Free Range Murder [Day 3]
« Reply #621 on: June 06, 2021, 09:28:21 am »

I agree with Tric, the choices is between me and Jim today.

Tric, you can't seriously think I was Blu's ally? What's your reasoning here?



By process of elimination, it's either Jim, or Fallacy is a Ranger or subject to a similar effect and ignored the redirect.
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Re: Roguelike Mafia 7 - Free Range Murder [Day 3]
« Reply #622 on: June 06, 2021, 09:54:33 am »

I agree with Tric, the choices is between me and Jim today.

Tric, you can't seriously think I was Blu's ally? What's your reasoning here?



By process of elimination, it's either Jim, or Fallacy is a Ranger or subject to a similar effect and ignored the redirect.

By process of elimination, it's you to Jim. So that logic alone won't work NQT. Beyond which, Fallacy has already claimed quite some time ago.

I'll wait on Fal to answer my question. But it's most likely you, given I haven't seen any charts so far.
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Re: Roguelike Mafia 7 - Free Range Murder [Day 3]
« Reply #623 on: June 06, 2021, 10:08:34 am »

If it's FoU or Tric how did they get around my redirect?
What are the odds that Webadict killed himself to get out of the game?
Scroll of Command counts as a redirect like Scroll of Attraction does. Maybe web won the random roll?
This would mean:
1. Web tried to kill himself again by having FoU target himself.
2. FoU is boldface lying to our faces by claiming immediately again just like Day 2.

I think NQT or Jim might have been hoping I would block Tric last night and so Web dying would setup FoU for a mislynch.

Uuuuuggghh or Web is just a huge sabotager and redirected FoU onto himself.

If FoU can confirm the Ill Will strike that gives me and Tric both alibis.
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Re: Roguelike Mafia 7 - Free Range Murder [Day 3]
« Reply #624 on: June 06, 2021, 10:12:02 am »

FallacyofUrist for now. Their behavior makes them the top Blue partner. If we're wrong I'll block Jim tonight.
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Re: Roguelike Mafia 7 - Free Range Murder [Day 3]
« Reply #625 on: June 06, 2021, 10:20:21 am »

...Fallacy why didn't you claim being hit by Tric's Ill Will Scroll in your first post? Were you not hit by it? I'm curious if you'll get the effect right for Tric.
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Re: Roguelike Mafia 7 - The Crypts of the Eastern Monastery [Day 1]
« Reply #626 on: June 06, 2021, 11:42:12 am »

Fallacy

Yeah look at this spread:

Vote Count:

EuchreJack:
notquitethere:
TricMagic:
prefuzek:
BluarianKnight: prefuzek, Jim Groovester, notquitethere
webadict: ToonyMan, BluarianKnight, webadict, EuchreJack, TricMagic
FallacyofUrist:
Jim Groovester:
ToonyMan:


Not Voting: FallacyofUrist


Day 1 will last until Tuesday, 6/1 at 9 PM EDT, ~65 minutes from this post.

Why was Jim bussing Blu there if they were team mates? Fallacy had spent the whole day voting for me and only unvoted when he was literally the last person on my wagon. Fallacy is the one who starts the Prefuzek CFD, explicitly to avoid a Blu lynch:

I don't think your reasoning for clearing Blue is substantial enough, but I do think there's more to the argument for not voting Blue than has been brought up.

Anyways bandwagon time! Let's go! prefuzek

Fallacy, you're claiming to have no items left, correct?



I previously thought Fallacy was a bad fit for scum. I'm not certain here.

Tric, what would you say if I told you I had a confirmable action I could use tonight?
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ToonyMan

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Re: Roguelike Mafia 7 - Free Range Murder [Day 3]
« Reply #627 on: June 06, 2021, 11:53:43 am »

I agree with Tric, the choices is between me and Jim today.
I think your discounting the possibility of Web using a Scroll of Command to make FoU kill him. Or like you say that Fallacy is actually a Ranger and bypassed my redirect.

Me and Tric are mechanically cleared if FoU confirms the Ill Will effect, if they can't then they're lying and we elim them. If they flip town then Tric was lying and we still win tomorrow.

Jim and NQT make no sense as the Blue partner.

1. Blue was the counterwagon to NQT, why would NQT push for Blue if the team is NQT/Blue?
2. Jim has been pushing FoU and Blue all game, why would mafia!Jim push for Blue's head on Day 1?

Behaviorally, it's very unlikely NQT is the partner and it's pretty unlikely Jim is the partner.

So let's review:

Mechanically and behaviorally cleared: Toony and Tric
Behaviorally cleared: NQT and Jim
Nothing: FoU

There's a 0% chance me and Tric are mafia (unless Tric is lying, but FoU should be able to confirm that soon).
There's a very small chance NQT is mafia.
There's a small chance Jim is mafia.
There's a high chance FoU is mafia.
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Re: Roguelike Mafia 7 - Free Range Murder [Day 3]
« Reply #628 on: June 06, 2021, 12:02:16 pm »

Yeah it's a good argument Toony. If Web had the scroll still (as he believed) and it wasn't used up when blocked then now I think on it, it's likely he'd attempt to do the exact same thing with it. It would have left him with a confirmable action if he wasn't killed.

Fallacy behaviourally fits better for scum, favouring one narrow target and then forcing a prefuzek wagon based on that. Jim needlessly imperiled his teammate on D1 if he was scum.
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Re: Roguelike Mafia 7 - Free Range Murder [Day 3]
« Reply #629 on: June 06, 2021, 12:08:16 pm »

If that's really what happened then it was a coinflip whether Web or Tric would be killed by FoU last night.

In other words, Web got his wish.

...It's still possible that NQT and Jim are the Blue partner, but it would be so omega-brained and self-harmful to attack Blue like that on D1. I want Fallacy to explain which of the two they think is the busser.
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