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Re: Amazing Cultivation Simulator
« Reply #360 on: January 18, 2021, 05:55:53 pm »

I considered sending them to a town, but they had such high stats and made a really good sect leader so here I am.

As for the artifact, I luckily had a purple tier one. So no reloading all my work to hopefully not kill 4 of my guys.
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« Reply #361 on: January 18, 2021, 06:43:41 pm »

You survived, good job, dunno if you would have if anything changed.

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« Reply #362 on: January 18, 2021, 07:53:56 pm »

Your equipped artifact does attack the tribulation and shortens the time in relation to the damage, so there is that.
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« Reply #363 on: January 18, 2021, 08:05:02 pm »

Just remembered. I also got my hands on some element damage resistance talismans. Since the tribulation goes through all elements, the more the better. I think you can get them from doodling randomly when drawing on a blank talisman.
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« Reply #364 on: January 18, 2021, 09:05:19 pm »

Just remembered. I also got my hands on some element damage resistance talismans. Since the tribulation goes through all elements, the more the better. I think you can get them from doodling randomly when drawing on a blank talisman.
If those are all the relevant talismans you have then yes, they are significantly better then nothing. If you have other relevant talismans though the element resist ones are woefully sub-par for the yaoguai tribulation since it goes through all five elements compared to talismans that help your defense in general (or attack if you are using an artifact).
That said, they are very good for the single element tribulations.
I also happened to look at the "heavenly Pancea" skill, and it says it restores Qi..... Could I perhaps just spam this around the tribulation fighter???
No. Miracles from other people can't interfere with a tribulation. You could have the dude doing the tribulation learn a qi restoring skill and use it on himself though.
Try doing it without the artifact. It's powered by your qi and things I've read basically say that you're better off not using artifacts unless you have a REALLY good one, or you've unlocked the ability to use multiples.
Having multiple artifacts doesn't really help with tribulations much since it doesn't impact the fundamental issue.
The issue is that artifacts have no protection skill, while your dude does. So if your artifact is hit with a 1000 qi damage attack it takes 1000 damage then goes back to you and drains it all out (aka, 1000 damage taken). If you get hit by 1000 qi damage your protection skill can reduce it a bunch (eg. to 750 or 500 or even less then 100).
Eventually with high enough artifact power the fact that the artifact takes a bunch more damage and thus drains your qi way faster is less relevant then the fact that it deals like a million damage and kills the tribulation way faster.

Also note that the lower your artifact qi the better since any extra damage it takes just disappears (eg. if a artifact with 100 max qi is hit by a 10k damage attack it blocks the whole attack but is drained then goes to fill up 100 qi from you and the extra 9.9k damage doesn't matter).
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Re: Amazing Cultivation Simulator
« Reply #365 on: January 18, 2021, 09:26:39 pm »

Hm, if the tribulation attacks the artifact rather than the character, and the artifact max damage that it can take is less than the attack's damage, then maybe its very good to have artifacts to take the damage.  Of course, if the tribulation can attack both the artifact and the player the same as attacking just the player, then it doesn't work.

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« Reply #366 on: January 18, 2021, 11:59:25 pm »

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No. Miracles from other people can't interfere with a tribulation. You could have the dude doing the tribulation learn a qi restoring skill and use it on himself though.

If they can activate skills, is it possible for them to eat another shield pill from their inventory while the tribulation is going? Because that sure would make this easier.
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« Reply #367 on: January 19, 2021, 06:41:27 am »

If they can activate skills, is it possible for them to eat another shield pill from their inventory while the tribulation is going? Because that sure would make this easier.
Nope, you can't eat or equip or change anything in your inventory at all during a tribulation/breakthrough. No eating that spirit crystal for extra qi, no realizing you have 3x mood talismans active instead of the 3x T12 combat talismans you stuck in your inventory, and no dropping that utter trash artifact that will make your dude fail a surprise tribulation.
Hm, if the tribulation attacks the artifact rather than the character, and the artifact max damage that it can take is less than the attack's damage, then maybe its very good to have artifacts to take the damage.  Of course, if the tribulation can attack both the artifact and the player the same as attacking just the player, then it doesn't work.
I think the artifact can block the whole hit, but if the artifact is so weak that a single hit knocks it out most of the damage is going to get through on subsequent hits.
But yeah, that's roughly how it works, although its a bit more complicated since you have to take into account your dudes artifact skill and protection skill and all his modifiers.
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« Reply #368 on: January 20, 2021, 04:07:03 am »

I've been keeping an eye on inner cauldron and stamina use, and it just seems insanely slow. Like, I couldn't get them to use all their stamina even if I tried, and that's without any sort of stamina regen items.

What am I missing? How do I increase the conversion of stamina into cultivation?
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« Reply #369 on: January 20, 2021, 04:19:11 am »

Cultivation speed, which can be done via talismans, drugs, skills, and probably a few other ways that've slipped my mind.

Don't bother with it for your first guy though. It literally takes years to max out without boosts.
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Re: Amazing Cultivation Simulator
« Reply #370 on: January 20, 2021, 10:36:20 am »

I've been keeping an eye on inner cauldron and stamina use, and it just seems insanely slow. Like, I couldn't get them to use all their stamina even if I tried, and that's without any sort of stamina regen items.
What am I missing? How do I increase the conversion of stamina into cultivation?

Haven't messed around with it myself, but every time someone brings up the subject of Inner Cauldron in the discord, response is always that it's a late-midgame mechanic that is impossible to do anything with before then.
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« Reply #371 on: January 21, 2021, 04:03:20 pm »

They say that because mid-late game, you can get like 200x cultivation speed, so that instead of taking years it takes months.

Inner caldron is the conversion of stamina into cultivation by cultivating at the breakthrough point without breaking through.  I'm not sure of the calculations, but at normal cultivation speed you get something like one Qi caldron conversion for each day of cultivation.  So 20 days of solid cultivation (not counting the days that you have to relax so that your mood returns to high) gives about 20 Qi.

The inner caldron does also reduce in effectiveness as it gets filled up.

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Re: Amazing Cultivation Simulator
« Reply #372 on: January 21, 2021, 09:44:47 pm »

So I'm extremely noobish at this game. I'm really not sure what to do about trying to break through after I get my first inner or how to make them stronger. I haven't touched alchemy or talismans yet and have yet to unlock any of the blocked locations. Not sure what the best early course of action is to improve my first inner.

At least I've learned the art of abusing the room/fengshui system so there's that.
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« Reply #373 on: January 21, 2021, 09:58:35 pm »

Definitely start making talismans. The basic ones are practically free and supply really useful buffs like runspeed or temperature resistance. In addition to more specific things like crafting speed or mood bonuses.
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« Reply #374 on: January 21, 2021, 11:22:10 pm »

If you're not already doing so, start investing in branches asap. They cost only a little bit of common materials to get set up, and they will provide you with massive amounts of inspiration and tons of easy recruits.

Also, if you're not already doing so, get some herb gardens planted. You'll want some herbs to nom when you're ready to start breaking through to gold core.

Build a Manual Pavilion room, and start training cultivators from all the laws you have available. Have them transcribe the skills they learn at the pavilion, and other cultivators from the other laws will be able to study those skills. Learn skills that boost cultivation speed, and skills that boost attributes associated with your law, as these things will help you cultivate more quickly.

When you get time, try to visit Kunlun and learn how to make their Magic Altars. They're a huge boost to your cultivation rooms early on.
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