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[Coffeespoons]

Wondering if I should pick this up now or wait for a sale.  It sounds like a decent way of passing another month or so of lockdown anyway.

[Majestic7]

It was on sale recently on Steam, likely ended yesterday. So a new sale is unlikely soon.

[Coffeespoons]

It was on sale recently on Steam, likely ended yesterday. So a new sale is unlikely soon.

Ain't that the story of my life.

[Coffeespoons]

Bought it on the German Gamesplanet site which I think is genuine rather than a key reseller for 25% off.  Not as good as the recent Steam sale though.  I'm going in, wish me luck!

[EuchreJack]

Enjoy!  Don't get eaten by the Space Emus!

[Coffeespoons]

Okay so I thought given my mastery of Dominions 5, my subjugation of DF and my multiple ascensions of most of the roguelikes I had this covered. 

However it's totalling baffling beyond the rather pleasing game setup.   

I guess I'm going to have to roll my sleeves up and read / watch some stuff to make heads or tails of it.

On an unrelated note I dug from the recesses of my memory what it reminded me of so far as overall theme - another card based post-apoc game by another Vic - Armageddon Empires which I rather enjoyed nearly a dozen years ago.

[E. Albright]

I'd not say it's that much like AE. YMMV I suppose.

I'd recommend Das Tactic's bite-sized videos tackling one or two ideas at a time.

[Dostoevsky]

Same here, although are Das Tactic's videos still all up-to-date considering some of the logistics changes made?

[E. Albright]

I haven't looked at those since my first week playing, so I don't know if they added more videos to update that. OTOH, that's something you can figure out once you need to if you know the basics - and TBH, if you set it to easy logistics, you don't really need to worry too much about pull points. Even now Das Tactics should get a new player to the point where they can figure out the rest, I'd say.

[EuchreJack]

Okay so I thought given my mastery of Dominions 5, my subjugation of DF and my multiple ascensions of most of the roguelikes I had this covered. 

However it's totalling baffling beyond the rather pleasing game setup.   

I guess I'm going to have to roll my sleeves up and read / watch some stuff to make heads or tails of it.

On an unrelated note I dug from the recesses of my memory what it reminded me of so far as overall theme - another card based post-apoc game by another Vic - Armageddon Empires which I rather enjoyed nearly a dozen years ago.

Didn't realize that Armageddon Empires was the same developer.

The independents in Dominions 5 never posed the threat that wildlife poses in this game.  More like the Carp from older versions of DF, and Forgotten Beasts in the current version.  It helps to remember how much time was actually spent learning DF.

[Majestic7]

I don't think it is the same developer, just the same first name. Armageddon Empires had an excellent art style and atmosphere, but the game mechanics sort of rubbed me the wrong way in some places.

[EuchreJack]

Finally beat a game of XenoShyft where you have to defend a mine from 9 increasingly harder waves of hostile lifeforms, by deploying ever tougher infantry weapons.

...for some reason, that reminds of Shadow Empire. 

[Coffeespoons]

So I'm making a little progress with this.  You want structural design high and basic design low incidentally.  Planet generation is great.  UI is a little confusing.  I've not played an out and out wargame before so some of what is taking me a while to get my head around others may find obvious.  Fun though.

[EuchreJack]

Actually, you want structural design high and basic design high.  It's just that basic design will grow with later models, but structural design is basically stuck once the first model is made.  You need a new model if structural design is low.

[Coffeespoons]

Sorry my post very misleading - I meant with the initial rolls to give headroom for improvement.

I'm having a great deal of fun with this, not been as enthused by a game for quite some time.  There's some real depth to the systems and a genuinely wide variety of playstyles.  Strong reco!