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[thompson]

Ideally, people would just take two vaccines, the less effective one if it’s available sooner, then the more effective one. Provided people understand this is how it works there’s no issue with a vaccine that offers only moderate protection. It’s not as if the alternative is everyone staying at home for as long as required.

[wierd]

Ultimately, I see Covid (and its mutant strains), being "A new flu", in terms of needing yearly vacc.

This is because of its high contagion rate, animal reservoir populations, and consistent stupid human behaviors.

The upshot is that the global population will cease being "naive" to the pathogen, and so over time, the infection will become more like flu in how people's bodies respond to it.  (at least in theory, we need clinical data over time to verify that.) 


Improvements in treatment regimens, antiviral drugs, and things of that nature will also help turn this page in history, but I forsee Covid sticking around long-haul, like Flu.

[ChairmanPoo]

Fuck it, 2020 was a write-off, my lease is up at the end of June, what's another year of my life among friends nobody anyways? I can probably manage it on my savings...

I'mmah take Poo's expertise on this one if only to assuage my fears, never mind that it's his job to know this stuff. We've learned an awful lot about coronaviruses in a small amount of time, surely cutting-edge knowledge can keep atop the matter even if social and economic leaders cannot?

Dont take my word for it. Nobody knows this stuff man. And I was fucking wrong back in February 2020 when I thought Euro goverments had a plan for all this and we'd be spared the ghastly scenes happening elsewhere. For what I've reading  I tend to think... well, the way I think. But I'd not be too surprised if suddenly they told us that so-and-so vaccine worked worse than previously thought against some variety or other. I do expect some degree of protection for the foreseeable future. I mean, the vaccines make you non-naive and common sense suggests that has to count for something. But again, who knows.

I tend to agree with what wierd and thompson said. I think making people non-naive to covid would be an advantage in itself.  That being said, the AZ vaccine looks worse and worse.

Ultimately, I see Covid (and its mutant strains), being "A new flu", in terms of needing yearly vacc.

This is because of its high contagion rate, animal reservoir populations, and consistent stupid human behaviors.

The upshot is that the global population will cease being "naive" to the pathogen, and so over time, the infection will become more like flu in how people's bodies respond to it.  (at least in theory, we need clinical data over time to verify that.) 


Improvements in treatment regimens, antiviral drugs, and things of that nature will also help turn this page in history, but I forsee Covid sticking around long-haul, like Flu.

Ideally, people would just take two vaccines, the less effective one if it’s available sooner, then the more effective one. Provided people understand this is how it works there’s no issue with a vaccine that offers only moderate protection. It’s not as if the alternative is everyone staying at home for as long as required.

[martinuzz]

The oldest person alive in Europe, a french nun, has survived a covid infection and will be celebrating her 117th birthday this week.


EDIT: in other news, travellers from the 33 countries that are designated high risk by the UK, will need to quarantaine in a hotel for 10 days upon arrival in the UK. The costs for this, 2000 euros will need to be paid for by the travellers themselves. Included with the fee are transport to the hotel, and a corona test.

People will need to stay inside their hotel rooms at all times. Guards will be deployed to the hotels to prevent escapes. Windows will be sealed.
Non-conformation will be punished by 10 years in prison.  The stay in prison will be paid for by the british government though.

The tourism and air travel sectors expect to be hit very hard by this measure.

EDIT2: I wonder.... Does this measure apply to truck drivers delivering and picking up cargo in the UK as well? I hope transport companies have spare trucks and drivers, or Europe-wide logistics will grind to a halt when all lorries are parked on a UK parking terrain for 10 days.

[Zangi]

EDIT2: I wonder.... Does this measure apply to truck drivers delivering and picking up cargo in the UK as well? I hope transport companies have spare trucks and drivers, or Europe-wide logistics will grind to a halt when all lorries are parked on a UK parking terrain for 10 days.

Realistically, it can be done.  Tractor trailers can drop off container(or trailer) at location and some local would in turn use their tractor trailer to take it.  Is like a relay race instead of a marathon.

[martinuzz]

Japan will likely need to throw away millions of doses of the Pfizer vaccin.
They don't have enough of the special syringes that can get a 6th dose out of the bottle.

Meanwhile, over here, some vaccinations will have to be redone. The Pfizer vaccin has not been transported correctly, and those vaccinated will possibly not be protected. The vaccine needs to be tranported cold, and stable. Shaking it can destroy it.
It turned out that some locations in my country had the vaccin transported by ..... snackbar vans.

[King Zultan]

snackbar vans.

Is that like an ice cream truck?

[martinuzz]

Basically, yes, but than with french fries, hamburgers, kroketten and frikadellen.

[wierd]

So, it's the Schnitzel man?

[martinuzz]

No that's German.

EDIT: in other news, antivaxers and covidiots are ecstacic. The German ministry of internal affairs has admitted that it ordered their country's scientist to exaggerate the dangers of corona, at the start of the epidemic last year.
This was discovered and published in die Welt yesterday.

Today, left wing party die Linke will summon the ministers to explain themselves.
Experts fear that this will trigger an avalanche of anti corona protests and convert many people to the psychotic loony camp.

[Loud Whispers]

Why would Germans do that? Why would they do that and then not take it seriously?

[martinuzz]

Their argument was that it would prepare the population to more easily accept strong lockdown measures

[scriver]

No that's German.

Mountain German to be exact. Germans consist of several kin: Mountain Germans, Hill Germans, River Germans, Slav Germans (angrily protesting to this day that they are not German, the silly Germans), and the angriest; Marsh Germans. Also known as Deep Germans as some Marsh Germans have angrily decided they are going to live below the water line and there is nothing anyone can do to stop them once a Marsh German gets it in their head to do something

EDIT: in other news, antivaxers and covidiots are ecstacic. The German ministry of internal affairs has admitted that it ordered their country's scientist to exaggerate the dangers of corona, at the start of the epidemic last year.
This was discovered and published in die Welt yesterday.

Today, left wing party die Linke will summon the ministers to explain themselves.
Experts fear that this will trigger an avalanche of anti corona protests and convert many people to the psychotic loony camp.

Well. Fuck.

[Caz]

I mean, did they really need to exaggerate given how bad the reality is anyway? Really stupid move.

[LordBaal]

What about the forest German? The underground Germans? The high Germans, the Dark Germans...?