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[Reelya]

Probably a good idea not to actually link to it btw, since whatever's on the current page has a high probability of being against forum rules.

[Max™]

NSFW is labeled clearly in the archive list, incidentally, and yeah, oglaf is fantastic, funtastic, fucktastic!

I'm rocking a buzzcut happily because the only hair I care about is on my face, the full beard stays, even in summer, so the head hair is the loser.

As for attempts to make the election go away so Trump can just keep being president, that's actually one of the funniest possible outcomes, because he's getting Uncle Phil'D the fuck out of the white house on Jan 20th or whatever when his term expires.

1.16 million known cases.

67k known deaths.

Dumbfuck recently said something to the effect of "only 60~70k deaths would be a victory" but it doesn't feel like much of a victory from this side.

[Kagus]

I mean, it was literally created as an excuse for the artist/author to make porn.

Yes/sorta. It started off as a porn comic, but they ended up getting kinda carried away with the jokes and realized that they weren't doing nearly enough sexytimes to count as a porn comic, and basically just said "fuck it".

Now there's explicit nudity roughly every other strip, and it's generally tied in with a particular joke.


Also: Regardless of what content the strip itself might have, the site does run banner ads that can contain graphic sexual imagery. That was Tarn's main objection when I asked about linking a strip years ago (I think the Oglaf depiction of dwarves should be fairly recognizable for DF'ers).

[McTraveller]

So CNN or someone (my wife was waving her phone in my face before I was fully awake) published some story that the WHO said that the US "had the highest death count in a 24 hour period" on May 1.  Supposedly quoted at like 2900+ in a day.  Worldometers has May 1 at 1800+ and May 2 at 1600+.  Is this just a selective 24-hour period to make the numbers say something "scary", or is there some fundamental difference in the data collection there?

I thought Worldometers was pretty good for collating the "official" numbers independently from each state.

[ChairmanPoo]

Worldometers is not a great source, IMO as I've found them to both over and undercount things. I've been following FT instead. John Hopkins is supposed to be good as well but the comparisons they offer are limited
https://www.ft.com/coronavirus-latest

That being said, for what I've seen around the reported confirmed covid19 deaths for the US in May 1 are around  2000, rather than 3000. Nonwithstanding that it might be revised down the line (weekend effect), is it possible that your wife is talking about excess mortality rather than confirmed covid19 cases?

[martinuzz]

Probably a good idea not to actually link to it btw, since whatever's on the current page has a high probability of being against forum rules.

As long as the full graphic content is not posted on the forum here I see no harm in providing a link with NSFW warning.
It's not like this is an extremist religious forum where someone might take offense to mentioning the existence of a comic with sexual content.

[scriver]

According to my guys in charge of the Swedish crisis handling, numbers for weekends and holidays should be regarded as untrustworthy and filled in and backlogged as the next week proceeds.

Which makes sense I guess.

[McTraveller]

Wife showed something from WHO that was "total confirmed deaths" so I don't think it was excess deaths. Interestingly I can't find a link now....

I dunno about Worldometers overall, but I know for my state they are using my state's official numbers, even including the ones that my state is "estimating".

[Iduno]

Worldometers is not a great source, IMO as I've found them to both over and undercount things. I've been following FT instead. John Hopkins is supposed to be good as well but the comparisons they offer are limited
https://www.ft.com/coronavirus-latest

That being said, for what I've seen around the reported confirmed covid19 deaths for the US in May 1 are around  2000, rather than 3000. Nonwithstanding that it might be revised down the line (weekend effect), is it possible that your wife is talking about excess mortality rather than confirmed covid19 cases?

Also, we have a lot of places that still refuse to test, and are refusing to release cause of death, in order to have the numbers look better. In addition to the sudden 50% increase when they start checking on people who haven't been seen in months.

[ChairmanPoo]

That's the reason why Financial Times has been tracking excess mortality... it's far more reliable.

[scriver]

Excess mortality being amount of deaths this time of year compared to last year (or maybe an average of many years?)?

[Frumple]

More or less, yeah. Can't remember if it tends to use the recent average or just the last year more often, though. Most areas I'm aware of that have that data are showing some pretty concerning numbers either way, iirc.

[ChairmanPoo]

Afaik averages of the last few years are used

[Starver]

There are of course multiple ways to be an excess death, only eome of which might be directly, indirectly or subsequent to COVID. Or the reaction to the COVID, etc. Last year could have been a particularly vitallic year without deaths, too, just by chance, perhaps another illness that is seasonal somewhat skipping a year.

Or lack of something like 'common' flu this year (with precautionary isolation early on) meant someone on their last legs find themselves getting a little further on the legs they are left with, until now.


So you need to be a bit careful just taking the figures across the last year (or, as per ninja, a few years, though the more years the better). And can't say "it was a case of COVID".

Still, there'll be a blip, I'm sure, standing out over all other blips, and then you get to work with meta-analysis to tie down how much chance there is that any part of that blip was just random and what's left is a signal.

[misko27]

On the other hand, we must not forget that "Excess deathrate" is the best, and perhaps only, good way of estimating secondary casualties from Coronavirus. People who didn't die from the virus but died due to healthcare collapse, as an example. My mother has a now twice-delayed colonoscopy that was going to remove cancerous nodules from her lower intestines, but it didn't happen when it was scheduled (and the previous colonoscopy was in January, but they scheduled another for March because they weren't able to remove everything they wanted to and it was clearly cancerous or pre-cancerous.) And if she were to die because the hospital beds were simply too full to accommodate an important, if not immediately urgent, surgery.

Not to mention our only protection against the omnipresent peril of undercounting.