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[Bumber]

The situation in NYC hospitals (and, well, everywhere) was and is far worse than you are saying, with material shortages and thousands of staff infected. If it didn't become worse, that is no reason to dump social distancing, because it was social distancing that prevented that in the first place.

Would you dump your parachute midjump because you didn't immediatedly splat after jumping out of a plane?

I didn't say we should dump social distancing altogether. Outside spaces such as parks and beaches, as well as outside restaurant seating, should be opened due to the mitigating factors of UV radiation and fresh air. Staying indoors for too long has an impact on physical and mental health. Jobs where you're only exposed to your coworkers limits the number of possible infectees. Same for areas with low population density. I'd say we need schools open, but they're already terribly overcrowded to begin with, and I'd bet poorer schools lack the space for outdoor classes.

Yes. And they were cancelled precisedly BECAUSE there was a significant risk of healthcare collapse. If you want those to go ahead you need to keep social distancing up, so that there is not a second peak, and hospitals both have the resources to spare for elective procedures, and  have a safe environment for the patients

The equipment and specialists are different, though. A COVID patient doesn't need an MRI machine or a heart surgeon.

[Starver]

I'm talking mainly of structural strength, especially in conserving the bit with the people in. And ward capacity of a health system might be considered pretty much its structural strength, even if you might find (at any given instance, at any given hospital) that there are queues for the X-ray machines but nobody is currently needing an endoscope examination.

Yes, a headlight may occasionally fail in normal use, but the engine shouldn't get pushed through into the cabin even in a fairly bad crash. Maybe you consider that a 'safety component', in which case I agree with you, and coffee-cup holders are not. OTOH, they could both be designed to a factor of 3.0 - the plastic holding a typical coffee cup (a can is 330ml, and slightly smaller, so 3x that-and-a-bit in weight/mass/force/whatever) might support 1.5kg in extremis in a quality car that cares about such things.  The forward bulkhead may be designed to withstand its share of a head on combined speed impact of 150mph by being strong enough to 'handle' a 260mph closing speed (x3^˝, cancelling out the rest of the basic equation of movement with v˛ in it).

Not that I can speak fully for modern car design. And it used to he "save the car, damn the passengers" in times before crumple zones and seatbelts (which I'm not sure can be 3x as safe as 'normal'.. in a consumer 3-point system, at least).

Not that that was the point. But it's not at 90-95% of its envelope of stress at all times, a car, unless its being constantly abused in a Fast & Furious sort of way.

[ChairmanPoo]

I didn't say we should dump social distancing altogether. Outside spaces such as parks and beaches, as well as outside restaurant seating, should be opened due to the mitigating factors of UV radiation and fresh air. Staying indoors for too long has an impact on physical and mental health. .

Those "mitigating factors" are not enough. We see it everywhere... if sun was all it took it wouldn't be ravaging Brazil and Iran. Not impossible to loosen, but must be done in  a way that prevents people from crowding, that allows to easily control people flouting the rules, and with testing capacity to isolate and trace contacts and lock down again if things get out of hand. Few countries are there.

Jobs where you're only exposed to your coworkers limits the number of possible infectees.

In a world where you only speak or interact with your coworkers maybe. But people relate  in wider circles. Which is what spreads the disease. Heck, I've seen people around with computer models of this. Same as before: any opening up must make people work from home as much as possible, enforce protection and limits on how many people can be in a building for those who dont, and a high testing capacity, same as before.

Same for areas with low population density.

Low population density isnt a magic bullet either. I mean it will obviously spread faster in  city, but less dense areas will have less resources to deal with the problem too :/

I'd say we need schools open, but they're already terribly overcrowded to begin with, and I'd bet poorer schools lack the space for outdoor classes

pretty much all of them do. IIRC past experience shows that early school closure

The equipment and specialists are different, though. A COVID patient doesn't need an MRI machine or a heart surgeon.]

They might need the MRI machine. If they do sterilization will be necessary between uses which will slow things down. You'll also need a radiologist who more likely than not will be too busy writing imaging reports on covid patients. The cardio surgeon won't have a lot of work himself but the anesthesiologists (which can and in most countries do double up as ICU physicians) will likely be busy. Plus the anesthesia machines might have been commandeered as impromptu respirators. And support staff will likely have been relocated too. You'll also need a ward to let the patients recover, and that ward will need to exist, will need staff, and will need to be covid free. And so on...  things in healthcare are quite convulted

[Max™]

Smart multi-stage airbags which actually scan sensors in the seats, seatbelt tensioners, and in a growing number of cases actually check with various sensors ranging from trying to have an ML system track and identify when a passenger is just cardancing vs the violent shocks during a crash... up to shit like sonar/radar/lidar checks for certain volumes in the cabin having bodyparts entering/moving through them rapidly in certain directions... all are a massive increase in passenger survivability and "walk-away-afterwards-ability" compared to the pre-airbag or early air-bag era.

Crumple zones, engineered collapse routes, and leveraging shit like ML checks to optimize the transfer of any energy trying to intrude into the passenger cell into other portions of the car/less violently coming to a halt.

Ideally cars would just keep track of other objects, talk with other cars, and in any situation where something fucks up they would actively take various steps to reduce severity mid-crash, and post-crash to the point that if a car was flipped over onto the roof it would attempt to kick itself over with active-suspension pulses and shit like distributed auto-lift systems like racecars have... unless it determined that would be likely to harm the occupants worse.

None of this is shit we can do during a crash, so we're clearly not qualified to drive.


Similarly, a government focused more on polishing smooth rounded surfaces than anything else is going to react poorly when it encounters a spiky bunch of corners and edges.

The US has been moving towards having dedicated cocksuckers for anyone earning over a certain amount since the Reagan era, and any time big corporations or rich old fuckbags run into a sharp edge they bitch and complain and throw money at politicians until it gets rubbed flat and smooth.

Polishing all those wrinkly little white guy knobs is a time-consuming... errr... job... so anything which isn't already dedicated to that task becomes a source of new edges and spikes to bitch about, things like healthcare, job security, education, infrastructure, really any sort of spending time or money that isn't directly related to rubbing old cock-n-balls becomes less tolerable and accordingly those of us with firm, upright, hard-working, and youthful junk are left to do our own polishing because if we wanted silk-gloved buffers we should have been born rich or found a way to rip off everybody else first!

Now that the junkpolishing has ground to a halt all those old shitbags are noticing how dry and uncomfortable and prone to chafing they've gotten so they push and push and push to get everyone else to bend over and take a good stiff pounding... for their sake.

Crossed the 1 mil known cases number a couple days ago, up to 62k known deaths so far.

We had a brief slowdown where it dropped from 2.4k deaths per day to 2k, then dipped closer to 1k, before hopping back up to around 2.5k again.

Looking through the "change since yesterday" data here I noticed something: https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/us/#nav-yesterday

Previously it had been a pretty smooth relationship between total cases and new cases, but now there are weird lumps in certain spots.

Illinois, California, Michigan, Texas, Georgia, Maryland, Virginia... why would those places suddenly show a spike of new cases out of proportion with their previously known cases when the rest of the list is so much smoother... hmmm, I suppose we'll never truly know, huh?


As for war with China, the first rule of nuclear fight club is you can't joint nuclear fight club, the second rule of nuclear fight club is you don't openly fight other members of nuclear fight club, the third rule is no fuck you, you seriously can't join and if you did you really can't fight other members openly.

[mko]

So that couple that took medicine irresponsibly touted by Trump as a possible COVID cure fish tank cleaner? The wife is now under investigation for homicide. Apparently the wife is a Democrat donor and has a previous domestic assault charge against her husband. The husband himself was a “very intelligent man” (retired mechanical engineer) according to friends. Something smells fishy.

https://www.nationalreview.com/news/woman-who-blamed-trump-after-giving-her-husband-fish-tank-cleaner-now-under-investigation-for-murder/

[Reelya]

So that couple that took medicine irresponsibly touted by Trump as a possible COVID cure fish tank cleaner? The wife is now under investigation for homicide. Apparently the wife is a Democrat donor and has a previous domestic assault charge against her husband. The husband himself was a “very intelligent man” (retired mechanical engineer) according to friends. Something smells fishy.

Watch how quickly she changes her tuna now. She's fin-ished.

[Bumber]

So that couple that took medicine irresponsibly touted by Trump as a possible COVID cure fish tank cleaner? The wife is now under investigation for homicide. Apparently the wife is a Democrat donor and has a previous domestic assault charge against her husband. The husband himself was a “very intelligent man” (retired mechanical engineer) according to friends. Something smells fishy.

Watch how quickly she changes her tuna now. She's fin-ished.

See her flounder as the sunfish sets on her freedom. Shell try to clam she only used a dab of the chemical. That won't kelp her. Her own testimony with be her worst anemone.

I'll bet they invite the sturgeon general to give the toxicology report as her knees turn to jellyfish and she lets out a blood coral-ing scream.

[martinuzz]

How is being a Democrat donor relevant in any way?

[NJW2000]

How is being a Democrat donor relevant in any way?

I think the implicit idea is that a Dem donor would care less about the negative publicity consequences for Trump of yet another person trying his bleach cure. Though if I really wanted to murder my husbad, I honestly doubt I'd care too much about the political consequences.

Alternatively, could be that a Dem would be unlikely to take advice from a Trump speech.

That said, America has more than enough crazy to go round, and I wouldn't be surprised if she had a road-to-Damascus moment along with her husband, and they promptly chugged aquarium cleaner right after.

[mko]

How is being a Democrat donor relevant in any way?

It makes less likely that she considered Trump trustworthy, it makes more likely that she considered "Republican mindlessly follow Trump to the point of consuming aquarium cleaner" to be believable.

Also, it makes possible that she had tripple motive - murder husband and blame Trump and present her husband as a gullible idiot. So not only murder but also an attempted character assassination of two people she disliked.

[ChairmanPoo]

I'm surprised by the remdemesvir hype in the US

[wierd]

Investors are chomping at the bit to get some sweet market recovery growth; seem willing to bite on anything.

The maker of Remdesivir is just willing to give them some hype to get a financial boost is all.

[scriver]

Apparently Trump said he wants the US to do like Sweden now?

[martinuzz]

Apparently Trump said he wants the US to do like Sweden now?

What? He wants an actual social security safety net, and to stop grabbing women by the pussy now?

[Starver]

Apparently Trump said he wants the US to do like Sweden now?

https://www.xkcd.com/2300/