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[Liberonscien]

Proposal name: Citizens
Proposal: Guests may register to the game as Citizens by posting to the thread "I, [Username], register to the thread as a citizen and understand that my position is below the Global Directors.".

Proposal name: Divisions
Proposal: There exist in-game organizations called "Divisions". Each Division is ruled over by a Global Director who may structure it as they see fit, within the rule set. Each Citizen must choose a Division to be a part of. Divisions are numbered in accordance with the GD who runs it.

GD-1, D-1, for example.

(The idea behind these is to get guests in the game and establish a hierarchy of sorts to keep things from getting too confusing.)

I would like to call for proposals in the vein of ensuring Citizens have rights that ensure proper dignity and such for them.

I don't want a Division leader to structure its Division in a way that is unfair to its people. E.g. Chief of Idiocy, Assistant Dumb person, etc.

[Liberonscien]

I think I tend towards creating bureaucracies.

If Divisions get passed then I'll probably structure mine as a kind of benevolent dictatorship/company focused on creating new bureaucracy of a hopefully streamlined nature.

The Divisions wouldn't just end up being mini-games of "Dictator Nomic" because they would be subsidiaries of the main game and would be under its jurisdiction.

The setup would probably be something like:

GD-1 (Me)
Various assistants (who form a kind of advisory council beneath me and would get specific titles based on their roles)
[There would be a kind of constitution in place so that I couldn't change its rules in unpredictable ways.]
Undecided.

Again, this Division would focus on trying to present better rule proposals for the bureaucracy of the game. Other Divisions could focus on game design, Citizen rights, and/or whatever they are interested in doing.

I very much want this game of Nomic to be fair and allow for people to have fun.

[Liberonscien]

There should be a thread for players to discuss the game without cluttering up this thread.

[King Zultan]

I have read this entire thread and I don't know which rules got passed, seems like there should be a list somewhere, like in the OP.

[Naturegirl1999]

Now that it’s Thursday
Proposal:Back up characters
Global Directors can create multiple characters, but only one character can be active at a time. When the active character dies, GD can choose which of their backup characters takes the Acive character’s place upon death. Backup characters do not start with what the Active character had upon death

[RoseHeart]

So I just want to be clear. I consider Colluseum Maximus my domain to do as I please. Firstly, it is at this point a demo. Second, each Gladiator Duel host can run duels however they want, as there is no rules to say otherwise.

I may be fine with other hosts using the thread, especially early on. Feel free to make suggestions and what have you, but I am not slowing down to ask permission on anything.

[Naturegirl1999]

So I just want to be clear. I consider Colluseum Maximus my domain to do as I please. Firstly, it is at this point a demo. Second, each Gladiator Duel host can run duels however they want, as there is no rules to say otherwise.

I may be fine with other hosts using the thread, especially early on. Feel free to make suggestions and what have you, but I am not slowing down to ask permission on anything.

That makes sense. I can change the proposal to something else. Sorry about that

[RoseHeart]

I haven't looked over the new proposals yet, so it wasn't a response to anything like that. I just wish to clearly communicate my intentions.

[Liberonscien]

So I just want to be clear. I consider Colluseum Maximus my domain to do as I please. Firstly, it is at this point a demo. Second, each Gladiator Duel host can run duels however they want, as there is no rules to say otherwise.

I may be fine with other hosts using the thread, especially early on. Feel free to make suggestions and what have you, but I am not slowing down to ask permission on anything.

That is fine.

I would probably do rhetoric duels where the goal is to convince someone of something.

[Naturegirl1999]

So I just want to be clear. I consider Colluseum Maximus my domain to do as I please. Firstly, it is at this point a demo. Second, each Gladiator Duel host can run duels however they want, as there is no rules to say otherwise.

I may be fine with other hosts using the thread, especially early on. Feel free to make suggestions and what have you, but I am not slowing down to ask permission on anything.

That is fine.

I would probably do rhetoric duels where the goal is to convince someone of something.

Sounds interesting

[The_Two_Eternities]

I have read this entire thread and I don't know which rules got passed, seems like there should be a list somewhere, like in the OP.

That's true. For everyone's voting (and editing) convenience, here is a list of the current rules.

6 Player Limit Removal(1-1): KittyTac | roseheart: FAILED
Mandatory Character Sheet(3): Naturegirl1999, roseheart, TTE: PASSED
3D Inactive OP Law(1-2): Liberonscien | TTE, roseheart: FAILED
Anti OP Slavery Law(4): roseheart, Liberonscien, Naturegirl1999, TTE: PASSED
Alpha/Beta Tiers(3): Liberonscien, Naturegirl1999, TTE: PASSED
Resolve Disputes by Gladiator Duels(3): roseheart, Eschar, Naturegirl1999: PASSED
3D Auto-Kick(1-2): Liberonscien | TTE, roseheart: FAILED
3D Kill Enabled(3): roseheart, Naturegirl1999, TTE: PASSED
3D Inactive OP Law V2(3): roseheart, Naturegirl1999, TTE: PASSED
Alignment CS Expansion(4): Liberonscien, Naturegirl1999, TTE, roseheart: PASSED
Rule 3 Clarification(1-1): TTE | roseheart: FAILED
Anti OP Slavery/Inactivity Law(1-3): TTE | roseheart, Liberonscien, Naturegirl1999: FAILED
RTD Guest Boost(3-1): Liberonscien, Naturegirl1999, TTE | roseheart: FAILED
Point System(4): Liberonscien, Naturegirl1999, TTE, roseheart: PASSED
Points for Proposing(2-2): Liberonscien, Naturegirl1999 | TTE, roseheart: FAILED
Points for Voting(2-2): Liberonscien, Naturegirl1999 | TTE, roseheart: FAILED

The new list of rules is in this spoiler, so all one has to do is copy and paste.

Spoiler: Rules (click to show/hide)

Alpha:
Alpha-1: All players must agree to changes in the game.
Alpha-2: Player limit of 6.
Alpha-3: After 48 hours all rules with at least one non-proposer yes vote are automatically accepted if unopposed.
Alpha-4: The OP must update the original post.
Alpha-5: Each player must create a character sheet. The character sheet must include name, appearance, goal, and alignment (allegiance or motivation for acting).
Alpha-6: Any new rule (this rule does not apply to rules Alpha-4 and Alpha-5) that requires the OP to do something requires the approval of the OP, and they hold the right to unilaterally repeal that rule at any time.
Alpha-7: There are two classes of rules: Alpha-class rules, which govern the Nomic; and Beta-class rules, which govern any in-game games. Each class is to be listed under a separate header. Rules are to be referred to in the format "Class-Number". Alpha-class rules overrule Beta-class rules.
Alpha-8: Disputes may be resolved with RTD gladiator battles. If the competitors are unable to agree on a referee, one will be selected randomly from a list of volunteers.
Alpha-9: If a player does not post to the thread for 72 hours, they can be killed and kicked from the game by any player. If there is an open player slot at any time, they may rejoin.
Alpha-10: If the OP is unavailable for 72 hours, the players may vote on a replacement OP and make a new thread. When this happens, the new OP must link to the previous thread in their OP and to the next thread in their last post in the old thread. The old OP is assumed to have left the game.
Alpha-11: Players may earn points in a manner determined by the rule set. The purpose of said points shall be determined by the rule set.
Beta:

Polished the phrasing a little, but only when neccesary, and I tried not to change the meaning.

No Proposal Wednesdays(4): roseheart, Naturegirl1999, Eschar, TTE
Game Setting(2-1): Liberonscien, Naturegirl1999 | TTE
RTD Guest Boost V2(3): Liberonscien, Naturgirl1999, TTE
Global Directors(3): Liberonscien, Naturegirl1999, TTE
Global Director Rulership(3): Liberonscien, Naturegirl1999, TTE
Backup Characters(1): Naturegirl1999
Proposal Titles(2): Liberonscien, TTE
Citizens(2): Liberonscien, TTE
Divisions(2): Liberonscien, TTE

Huh. Looks like No Proposal Wednesdays really worked. (Despite not having passed yet.)

[RoseHeart]

Thank you for giving the proposals some down time. I think it was for the best. OP Liberonscien may use this to update the OP if they wish. Example below.

Code: [Select]

[b]ALPHA RULES:[/b][list type=decimal][li]
All players must agree to changes to the game.
[/li][li]
Player limit of 6.
[/li][li]
After 48 hours all rules with at least one non-proposer yes vote are automatically accepted if unopposed.
[/li][li]
The OP must update the original post.
[/li][li]
[url=http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=174557.0]Character Creation[/url]
[quote]Name:
Appearance:
Goal:
Aligned Entity:
(Add more if desired)[/quote]
[/li][li]
Any new rule that requires the OP to do something, must have OP consent. And can be removed by them later.
[/li][li]
There are two classes of rules: Alpha rules, which govern the Nomic; and Beta rules, which govern any in-game games. Alpha rules are to be listed under an Alpha header. Beta rules are to be listed under a Beta header. Alpha rules are to be referred to as Alpha-1, Alpha-2, and so on. Beta rules are to be referred to in a similar way. Alpha rules overrule Beta rules.
[/li][li]
Disputes can be resolved with RTD Gladiator battles, hosted by a referee. The competitors would agree on one, or one would be chosen randomly if they couldn't. Anyone that volunteered to do it.
[/li][li]
If a player does not post to the thread for three days than they can be killed by any player, and if killed are no longer signed up. They may resign/respawn at any time. If there is an open slot still.
[/li][li]
In the case of the OP being unavailable for three days then all active players can vote on a replacement OP and make a new thread. When this happens the new OP must link to the previous thread in their OP and to the next thread in their last post in the old thread. OP is assumed to have left the game.
[/li][li]
All characters must be aligned with an entity of their choice. This entity may be an individual (see clause B), a specimen of flora or fauna, an organization, or a deity (see clause C).
Clause B: The individual may be the character itself.
Clause C: The deity must be from a pre-existing (see clause C.A) religion or fictional work.
Clause C.A: Pre-existing, for the sake of this rule, means before the character was made.
[/li][li]
Players may earn points in a manner determined by the rule set. The purpose of said points shall be determined by the rule set.
[/li][/list]

[b]BETA RULES:[/b]
[list type=lower-roman][li]
(Rules not yet officially classified.)
[/li][li]
(Rules not yet officially classified.)
[/li][/list]

[b]PLAYERS:[/b][list type=decimal][li]
Liberonscien
[/li][li]
roseheart
[/li][li]
The_Two_Eternities
[/li][li]
KittyTac
[/li][li]
Naturegirl1999
[/li][li]
Eschar
[/li][/list]
ALPHA RULES:

• All players must agree to changes to the game.
  
• Player limit of 6.
  
• After 48 hours all rules with at least one non-proposer yes vote are automatically accepted if unopposed.
  
• The OP must update the original post.
  
• Character Creation
  

  Name:
  Appearance:
  Goal:
  Aligned Entity:
  (Add more if desired)
• Any new rule that requires the OP to do something, must have OP consent. And can be removed by them later.
  
• There are two classes of rules: Alpha rules, which govern the Nomic; and Beta rules, which govern any in-game games. Alpha rules are to be listed under an Alpha header. Beta rules are to be listed under a Beta header. Alpha rules are to be referred to as Alpha-1, Alpha-2, and so on. Beta rules are to be referred to in a similar way. Alpha rules overrule Beta rules.
  
• Disputes can be resolved with RTD Gladiator battles, hosted by a referee. The competitors would agree on one, or one would be chosen randomly if they couldn't. Anyone that volunteered to do it.
  
• If a player does not post to the thread for three days than they can be killed by any player, and if killed are no longer signed up. They may resign/respawn at any time. If there is an open slot still.
  
• In the case of the OP being unavailable for three days then all active players can vote on a replacement OP and make a new thread. When this happens the new OP must link to the previous thread in their OP and to the next thread in their last post in the old thread. OP is assumed to have left the game.
  
• All characters must be aligned with an entity of their choice. This entity may be an individual (see clause B), a specimen of flora or fauna, an organization, or a deity (see clause C).
  Clause B: The individual may be the character itself.
  Clause C: The deity must be from a pre-existing (see clause C.A) religion or fictional work.
  Clause C.A: Pre-existing, for the sake of this rule, means before the character was made.
  
• Players may earn points in a manner determined by the rule set. The purpose of said points shall be determined by the rule set.
  

BETA RULES:

• (Rules not yet officially classified.)
  
• (Rules not yet officially classified.)
  

PLAYERS:

• Liberonscien
  
• roseheart
  
• The_Two_Eternities
  
• KittyTac
  
• Naturegirl1999
  
• Eschar
  

[RoseHeart]

Ninja'd! I might vote for your bookkeeping TTE, but I firmly believe every rule added, should be done exactly as proposed. When possible.

[RoseHeart]

(Thank you TTE for your harrowing efforts to keep the Votebox updated, let's make sure to use it everyone.)

Here's the rest, now that I finished.


Ending Later Today
RTD Guest Boost V2
I support this. It's a backbone for more. If points are tied into it for example.

Game Setting
I oppose this. The way it is worded would require new rules to allow any roleplaying at all. Something that is already a part of the game.

Aside: If this was worded as a "default" which can be contradicted when desired, then it would be a fine benchmark to help visualize/roleplay. Though I sense fantasy is the group preference, going by Colosseum Maximus character sheets and item suggestions(even despite instructions to the contrary).

Global Directors
I oppose this. This rule is a landmine. You cannot even refer to someone as "they" or "them" throughout a sentence or paragraph, because they "are to be referred" only this way.

Global Director Rulership
I remain neutral on this. I sense this could cause some problems, but also open up opportunities. We must be vigilant if and when it passes.


Ending Tomorrow
Backup Characters
I support this. Options are good.

Proposal Titles
I give conditional support to this. I oppose the example being included in the rule, but support the rule itself. See below for what I believe is a little more clear(easier to spot) and less like a copy paste form.

Citizens
I support this. This is a backbone for more.

Divisions
I support this. This is a backbone for more. (Though it is a little unclear where the rule ends and the explanation begins.)


New
3 Proposal Limit A Day
New Rule: You may only make 3 proposals a day. A proposal may contain multiple new rules and or rule revisions, but players vote for or against an entire proposal. You may edit a proposal if it doesn't have any non-proposer votes. You may spend X-2 points to make an additional proposal, where X equals your total number of proposals today before your next one.
New Rule: If you posted in the thread between the last two Wednesdays, you gain 10 Points.

Reason: This really is to reduce spam.

Underline Proposal Titles
New Rule: Proposal titles must be underlined.

REASON: :,3 I can't find your proposals people.

Global Directors V2
New Rule/Revisions: Excluding this one, instances in rules(past and future) of the word "player" and "players" are to be replaced with the title "Global Director" and "Global Directors". All Global Directors are assigned the number of the player slot they fill. They may change number if that slot is open. They have the option to take a concise nickname. (GD-1 "Clockwork", for example.)


Wishes For The Future
Mafia-like Abilities
Like night actions. Just seems cool.

Bookkeeping.
So much bookkeeping.

No Proposal Wednesdays(4): roseheart, Naturegirl1999, Eschar, TTE: PASSED

RTD Guest Boost V2(4): Liberonscien, Naturgirl1999, TTE, roseheart
Game Setting(2-2): Liberonscien, Naturegirl1999 | TTE, roseheart
Global Directors(3-1): Liberonscien, Naturegirl1999, TTE | roseheart
Global Director Rulership(3): Liberonscien, Naturegirl1999, TTE
Backup Characters(2): Naturegirl1999, roseheart
Proposal Titles(3*): Liberonscien, TTE, roseheart*
Citizens(2): Liberonscien, TTE, roseheart
Divisions(2): Liberonscien, TTE, roseheart

[Naturegirl1999]

Quote
RTD Guest Boost V2(4): Liberonscien, Naturgirl1999, TTE, roseheart
Game Setting(2-2): Liberonscien, Naturegirl1999 | TTE, roseheart
Global Directors(3-1): Liberonscien, Naturegirl1999, TTE | roseheart
Global Director Rulership(3): Liberonscien, Naturegirl1999, TTE
Backup Characters(2): Naturegirl1999, roseheart
Proposal Titles(4*): Liberonscien, TTE, roseheart*, Naturegirl1999
Citizens(3): Liberonscien, TTE, roseheart, Naturegirl1999
Divisions(3): Liberonscien, TTE, roseheart, Naturegirl1999
I support roseheart’s cindition to the Proposal Titles rule