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[Uthimienure]

Meanwhile I'm in the opposite camp where elves and humans are fine, but dwarfs are too different. Either dwarfs should have a slightly smaller head, or elves and humans should have bigger.

Because right now, when they're side by side, it just looks very wrong.

Yeah, the dwarves' heads make them proportioned like (dare I say it) newborn babies. But hey, it's a game and I'm used to watching the tile-sized faces walking around anyway.

[Rose]

It would make more sense if the humans and elves also had similarly proportioned heads. As a bonus, elves would have more visible ears that way.

[Schmaven]

It would make more sense if the humans and elves also had similarly proportioned heads. As a bonus, elves would have more visible ears that way.

That would be really interesting to see: if the human and elven heads were enlarged toward if not equalized with the dwarven head size.  Their facial features would get better clarity that way.  The proportions are a bit less 'realistic' but they're just pixel tile representations so I have no issue with that trade off. 

[Rekov]

I don't know if head-size really is the issue, though it might be one potential fix.

Comparing a Steam.DF female elf to one from my upcoming mod:


The head-size is pretty much the same, though mine are a little wider. The bigger difference is style. Steam.DF is more realistic, while mine is cartoony, almost chibi, but this makes the features much more obvious. The things that make my head (ignoring body silhouette for now) disinctly feminine are:
1) The roundness of the chin/jaw
2) The color of the lips
3) The shape of the eyes, which implies eye-lashes.

[jecowa]

Your elf is an animu elf while theirs is a dirty tree hippy.

[bloop_bleep]

I agree, rounder chin, higher cheekbones, and wider eyes would make it more distinctive.

[MaXMC]

I see your point, but using different silhouettes is a bit tricky due to the equipment. Either we have to make two sets of every piece of clothing and armor, or the silhouette gets covered as soon as anyone wears any clothes.

Actually that's way more realistic. I don't see any need for boob-armor in Dwarf Fortress, its 32x32 pixels for <insert deity> sake...

[jecowa]

Since either gender can wear the same armor, boob armor might not make sense for that reason. Hopefully the chest cavity is large enough to accommodate both genders. The gap between the chest and the breastplate is good because it acts as a crumple zone like in a car.

[Meph]

Don't worry, no one will get boob armor breastplates. But the chainmail armor will all be chainmail bikinis, even for the male dwarves. Does that sound alright?

[Starver]

I'd rather my fantasy game not increasingly look like my typical trip to the supermarket...

(Though at least I have somewhere to put my oranges.)

[Shonai_Dweller]

Interesting wip bridge designs you've posted over at Reddit.
https://www.reddit.com/r/dwarffortress/comments/n0ml8n/steamdf_bridge_design_wip/

(Going to start talking coding wishes now, beyond the artwork. I know it's Toady that codes and not you, but this is the only place we have to discuss the official Steamset)


Is there any way to make the outside world bridges you find out in the wilderness crossing rivers a different design to dwarven drawbridges? I'd imagine arches for the former and the flatter designs you've made for drawbridges.

I know it's the same thing technically right now, but exploring the world in Adventurer with the new Steam tileset and music is something a lot of us are looking forward to. And flat dwarven drawbridges crossing a brook are a little immersion breaking.

[Bumber]

Is there any way to make the outside world bridges you find out in the wilderness crossing rivers a different design to dwarven drawbridges?

I thought those were made out of constructed walls and floors?

[Shonai_Dweller]

Is there any way to make the outside world bridges you find out in the wilderness crossing rivers a different design to dwarven drawbridges?

I thought those were made out of constructed walls and floors?

Hmm. Didn't realise that. Would still be nice if they could look like bridges.

[Starver]

In lieu of a Reddit account[1]...

I don't mind the ropes as much as others do. As part of the "pull up the drawbridge" it makes sense. Can I reverse the suggestion to scrap the ropes but keep the supports (rope visible along bridge-side surface, not held up, theoretically concertina-moding the bridge when the raiser-bit is activated).

Somewhere, some time ago, I did my own visualisations of how to deal with both raising and retraction (of both multitile and single-tile[2] bridges) according to my personal headcanon. I think I never got around to posting those, I didn't want to influence things. Not sure if there's a tween-point graphic here for transition-animation, but it looks very compatible with how I think they should function.

The slightly raised version (second imgur link down, wasn't it?) doesn't really work for me. Not as a dynamic bridge... Perhaps a floor-type one that transitions to unfloored normal-ground could be assumed to be like that, for aesthetics, but we have to fight with the whole "what is a floor" visualisation, with ⅐th/⅛th of a cell's verticality/whatever, making paved roads 'proud' (as they were, often, for construction/drainage reasons).

The desire for different bridge-types makes me hark back to Transport Tycoon (though I can't remember now how that was paramaterised... higher cost version chosen, more futurustic, the trainline/road rates for higher transit speed, was it?). I could easily see some method of displaying (mostly as encountered in Adventure Mode) subtly different over-decorations (to the MAT-/quality-based initial variations) a cultural clue as to in whose territory/control the structure exists.
(https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Berwick_Bridge https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Craigellachie_Bridge https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bonar_Bridge https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laxford_Bridge - not strictly examples, to follow, but any excuse to show some interesting bridges of various types that aren't all just across the Forth. )

[1] Doesn't stop my browser trying hard to open on the App I must have had installed by default on this tablet...

[2] Lengthwise, which I'd like to see examples of with the raiser-rope feature included (i.e. drawbridge-door/wall constructions).

[Mr Crabman]

I've been curious, what's the deciding factor for which way a creature faces? I've noticed some face left (most actually), but some face right, and I can't figure out a pattern; is there one?