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What would the dwarves call themselves in their own language?
« on: September 28, 2018, 06:30:31 am »
In terms of its sound and meaning, which Dwarven language compound word do you think best describes how toady's dwarves might refer to themselves?

I quite like Tholdurad, 'Deepbeards'. Although, Zirildurad is more apt for some of my recent volcano embarks...
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Re: What would the dwarves call themselves in their own language?
« Reply #1 on: September 28, 2018, 07:25:45 am »
Urist, of course.
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Re: What would the dwarves call themselves in their own language?
« Reply #2 on: September 28, 2018, 08:35:30 am »
Quote from: Megaman3321 on September 28, 2018, 07:25:45 am
Urist, of course.
Urist means "dagger" in their language. They aren't sharp enough.
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Re: What would the dwarves call themselves in their own language?
« Reply #3 on: October 01, 2018, 05:55:49 pm »
Urist is a Bay12 cultural term. It originated from a 23a story in which an insane dwarf named Urist locked herself away from the world and murdered all migrants.

(And yes, in their language it means "dagger". I mean Urist in the sense of Urist McDwarf, the archetypal/default/standard name.)
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Re: What would the dwarves call themselves in their own language?
« Reply #4 on: October 01, 2018, 06:09:11 pm »
The wiki page even includes an "aren't that sharp" joke.
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Re: What would the dwarves call themselves in their own language?
« Reply #5 on: October 01, 2018, 10:22:03 pm »
Quote from: Dahrk on September 28, 2018, 06:30:31 am
In terms of its sound and meaning, which Dwarven language compound word do you think best describes how toady's dwarves might refer to themselves?

I quite like Tholdurad, 'Deepbeards'. Although, Zirildurad is more apt for some of my recent volcano embarks...

I'd say Lamudos, "Stone-men" or Onoltilat, "Mountain-children."
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Re: What would the dwarves call themselves in their own language?
« Reply #6 on: October 02, 2018, 06:43:53 am »
Depends whether they prefer embellishment, legends and fancy words or more honest expression of their fundamental traits.

If the first is true, they may name themselves:

Beardmen/Beardedmen (Duradudos)
Buriedmen (Ostarudos)
Cavedwellers (Äskokeb)
Mudlovers (Olevon, or Salapanelime in Elvish)
Necromongers (Ugithodes, the tribes which learned necromancy)
Rockmasters (Idôn)
Steelfists(Delerdur)
Stoneborn (Lamnóton)
Stoneworkers (Lamcubor)
Tunnelcreatures (Ódmes)

If they prefer honesty, then:

Basic race (Ensebarkim)
Blunttools (Unâllor)
Dimlights (Aröshistam)
Dogeaters (Idardeb)
Drunkenwarriors (Órikor)
Dullknives (Rumadzasit)
Emptyminded (Kisatottan)
Flimsymortals (Tetisttunom, there is no word for puny)
Horrorswallowed (Kozothmozib, the tribes which learned necromancy)
Illfated (Enentarem)
Mindcontrolled (Ottanegul)
Potheads (Tezadser)
Roughgems (Dumatkadôl)
Screamqueens (Ubasesrel)
Shortlives (Idromthunen)
Stonebrains (Lamidek)
Tragicdefects (Mososaluth, there is no word for mistake or error for some reason)
Uglysuckers (Eknareb)
Weremen (Seneludos)

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Re: What would the dwarves call themselves in their own language?
« Reply #7 on: October 03, 2018, 01:18:33 am »
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Re: What would the dwarves call themselves in their own language?
« Reply #8 on: October 03, 2018, 01:34:55 am »
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Unfortunately there appears to be no word for that. That would have been my choice too.
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Re: What would the dwarves call themselves in their own language?
« Reply #9 on: October 03, 2018, 09:22:26 pm »
Wereman just means manman, which does nothing but remind me of the song from 2.5 Men.
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Re: What would the dwarves call themselves in their own language?
« Reply #10 on: October 04, 2018, 12:15:50 pm »
Quote from: Dozebôm Lolumzalìs on October 03, 2018, 09:22:26 pm
Wereman just means manman, which does nothing but remind me of the song from 2.5 Men.

Unless one of the "man" means humans, and the other means males. Also, there are many wereelephants and wereasses who are not humans after transforming back, which suggests that the were- means something more generic in DF, like sapient races for example.
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Re: What would the dwarves call themselves in their own language?
« Reply #11 on: October 08, 2018, 10:51:39 pm »
Quote from: Saiko Kila on October 04, 2018, 12:15:50 pm
Quote from: Dozebôm Lolumzalìs on October 03, 2018, 09:22:26 pm
Wereman just means manman, which does nothing but remind me of the song from 2.5 Men.

Unless one of the "man" means humans, and the other means males. Also, there are many wereelephants and wereasses who are not humans after transforming back, which suggests that the were- means something more generic in DF, like sapient races for example.
True, but if it is to apply to all dwarves, it can't just mean male dwarves.

"A sentient race that turns into [male?] humans on the full moon" is... not a good description of dwarves.
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Re: What would the dwarves call themselves in their own language?
« Reply #12 on: October 09, 2018, 06:03:21 am »
I'd say it should depend on their civs. Not all dwarves, for exemple, wear beards or live underground, or be particularly short and stout. For self reference, I like to imagine my dwarves referring to themselves like :

• People of X, with X being the name of their civs. Shorter alternatives are preffered, ie Dwarves of the Grand Lancers should call themselves "Lancers".
• If notable characteristics, be it physical or cultural, are converging toward something recognizable, I use that instead. IE a civ that dresses in blue and white and have clouds for a civilization symbol would call themselves "sky people".

That's just how I do tho
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Re: What would the dwarves call themselves in their own language?
« Reply #13 on: October 09, 2018, 06:51:29 am »
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Re: What would the dwarves call themselves in their own language?
« Reply #14 on: October 17, 2018, 08:43:43 am »
I like Lamnóton.
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