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[Detoxicated]

Of we add republics, no matter what specific type, I would like to be able to vote on important issues as if were going to war, if we want to create a new settlement for the civ, who becomes a leader, where to settle, etc. Before the actual voting happened there would be a discussion phase where each voting member could try to persuade others to join their side. So maybe the civ discusses the possible change of law to forbid slavery and I as a player could potentially sway the humans to do just that. Nobles in noble republics would have to travel to the capital to vote and on the way fun stuff happens. Maybe there is a violent group that wants to assassinate a certain individual who votes against said group.

In a absolutist monarchy there wouldn't be any votes, but in a feudal monarchy the dukes would get to vote on some manners...

[KittyTac]

The player is pretty much a representation of the current fort's ruler (or the collective will of the dwarves).

[PlatinumSun]

The player is pretty much a representation of the current fort's ruler (or the collective will of the dwarves).

I hope what ever Toady does theres always a toggle for the player to not have to deal with elections and dwarves uprising. Im fine if all other civs have all that but I dont want to be forced to deal with it. So as long as it can be toggled I dont mind.

[KittyTac]

The player is pretty much a representation of the current fort's ruler (or the collective will of the dwarves).

I hope what ever toady does theres always a toggle for the player to not have to deal with elections and dwarves uprising. Im fine if all other civs have all that but I dont want to be forced to deal with it. So as long as it can be toggled I dont mind.

I'm not sure that it could be toggled. Go ask in FOTF.

[PlatinumSun]

Also, the plan is (I think) to NOT have the overseer as an omnipotent god. Toady has the final say  everywhere. If a suggestion goes against the plan, it won't be implemented. And yes, he reads all suggestion threads that aren't obvious trolls (like your battle royale thing).

Well I should have been more specific. Toady reading the thread who cares. I want him to comment on it.

[PlatinumSun]

The player is pretty much a representation of the current fort's ruler (or the collective will of the dwarves).

I hope what ever toady does theres always a toggle for the player to not have to deal with elections and dwarves uprising. Im fine if all other civs have all that but I dont want to be forced to deal with it. So as long as it can be toggled I dont mind.

I'm not sure that it could be toggled. Go ask in FOTF.

You might be correct.

[KittyTac]

Also, the plan is (I think) to NOT have the overseer as an omnipotent god. Toady has the final say  everywhere. If a suggestion goes against the plan, it won't be implemented. And yes, he reads all suggestion threads that aren't obvious trolls (like your battle royale thing).

Well I should have been more specific. Toady reading the thread who cares. I want him to comment on it.

Toady never comments on suggestion threads. Just silently takes notes. That's it.

[PlatinumSun]

Also, the plan is (I think) to NOT have the overseer as an omnipotent god. Toady has the final say  everywhere. If a suggestion goes against the plan, it won't be implemented. And yes, he reads all suggestion threads that aren't obvious trolls (like your battle royale thing).

Well I should have been more specific. Toady reading the thread who cares. I want him to comment on it.

Toady never comments on suggestion threads. Just silently takes notes. That's it.

Thats a little disappointing to be honest.

[PlatinumSun]

Of we add republics, no matter what specific type, I would like to be able to vote on important issues as if were going to war, if we want to create a new settlement for the civ, who becomes a leader, where to settle, etc. Before the actual voting happened there would be a discussion phase where each voting member could try to persuade others to join their side. So maybe the civ discusses the possible change of law to forbid slavery and I as a player could potentially sway the humans to do just that. Nobles in noble republics would have to travel to the capital to vote and on the way fun stuff happens. Maybe there is a violent group that wants to assassinate a certain individual who votes against said group.
 
In a absolutist monarchy there wouldn't be any votes, but in a feudal monarchy the dukes would get to vote on some manners...

No thats not how rebublics work. Your confusing republics with democracy. Democracy is when everyone votes not just leaders no country at the moment exists that is a democracy. Republics is just when the people vote in leaders and the leaders vote on issues and what not, which is the system most countries currently use.

[Detoxicated]

Lol ok thanks for the info. Does that nullify the argument wntirely though?

[PlatinumSun]

Lol ok thanks for the info. Does that nullify the argument wntirely though?

'entirely' not "wntirely".

Is Donald Trump king of America? Is Justin Trudeau SUPREME LEADER OF CANADA AND WEALD UNLIMITED POWAHR! No neither of them are. And as such this doesnt nullify the argument at all. Becuase the USA and Canada is a Republic.

[Detoxicated]

Okay. May I point out that it's supposed to say world and power...
Your earlier post doesn't even conflict with what I said, as nobles voted on different matters in the examples I used. It seems that you are confused about republics and democracy. Freek democracies didn't include every person, yet they made decisions in a democratic manner.

[PlatinumSun]

Well even then its not a proper republic. Becuase the nobles and barons are not voted in by the people.
And in DF the nobles reign over what they reign over and then the king reigns iver the whole civ. It hasnt been programmed in yet so the king can overule any mandates of the barons.

[Detoxicated]

Indeed, and this is why we discuss these things in the suggestion forum. It seems to me that you get hanged up on a word.
[url]https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Golden_Liberty
This explains what I meant earlier.

[Miles_Umbrae]

Wait...
Is this a discussion about what defines different types of governance?