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[Doomblade187]

Also, I think we should let the civvies evacuate. Sounds like a resource production boost.

[frostgiant]

Designs:
ARA 1913 AT “lance” (1): Frostgiant
ARA Model-1913GEN "SparkPack" (1): Frostgiant

Gift:
Orleans (1):Frostgiant

Harren Plan:
Plan C (0):
Plan B (1):Frostgiant

[Kashyyk]

I would be inclined to Fortify. Getting 6 points of Entrenchement would make us all but unbreakable on the defence, and unless they invade we have a chance to claim some of Harren island anyway.

However, designs. I back the sparkpack for sure. I'd also like to design a SkySkiff flying motorboat for rapid deployment akin to a helicopter.

An evolution of the Kingmaker, the Valkyrie takes our troops to new heights (badum-tss). Shaped similarly to an armoured truck, but with skids instead of wheels and a fan each side for maneuvering (one each side). The vehicle is armoured with Thin Caelium Steel and utilizes a Gavrilium Generator, powering three small Caelium cores, one at the front and two at the rear (creating a triangle for stability) as well as the fans. Below each fan is a sliding door allowing quick (dis)embarkation. Each door also has a mount for a Scythe MG, operable by one of the 12 passengers (Or a Paladin and his squires).

Designs:
ARA Model-1913 AT “Lance” (1): Frostgiant
ARA Model-1913 GEN "SparkPack" (2): Frostgiant, Kashyyk
ARA Model-1913MP ATV "Valkyrie" Aerial Transport Vehicle (1): Kashyyk

Gift:
Orleans (2): Frostgiant, Kashyyk

Harren Plan:
Plan A (1): Kashyyk
Plan B (1): Frostgiant
Plan C (0):

[Jerick]

You know on rereading the lance I don't think it does much interesting. Aside from being beeeg (much bigger and carrying the ammo will become a real problem), it's a pretty standard anti-tank rifle with some light k-wool and caelium trimmings. We need an anti-tank rifle no doubt but I propose a new model that'll actually advance our tech a bit and could build into beeeger crazier weapons.

The Halberd is a 40mm anti-tank rifle. It is fed from a box magazine and uses a scaled up and improved gas operation system like the Modea. It is capable of semi-auto fire. Taking recoil management lessons from the Gorgon the barrel of the weapon slides backwards when fired hitting a block of k-wool before springing back into position and chambering a round in the process. The stock is also heavily padded creating a three-point recoil system between the k-wool and the barrel. This should provide almost complete protection against the weapon's considerable recoil. The weapon has a bipod which also has k wool inserts in its legs. These inserts help absorb vibrations and counteract any weapon rattle allowing the weapon to fire multiple times without being knocked off target. The weapon uses a scope to sight its targets. The scope is simple and very similar to telescopes used in naval navigation.

Caelium, ground up and mixed into a grain-aligned metal has shown a propensity to emit force when powered, the force emitted exponentially increasing with the charge applied. Ground up caelium is to be added to the metal of the shell so the projectile will be accelerated forward. There are metal contacts interspersed along the barrel so that any shell passing down the barrel with complete a circuit with each set of contacts and will thus be propelled forward.

The weapon has a caelium core and is made from caelium steel to reduce weight. This makes the weapon easy to carry, manuever and crucially aim. Unlike the scythe, the core is active when the weapon is fired and this causes an interesting effect. The projectile is affected by forces as if it was of a lower mass until it leaves the core's area of effect at which point it retains the all the velocity it gained. This means the projectile leaves the barrel at far greater velocity than a projectile of its mass would normally be accelerated to.

Power is designed to come from an external source, ideally the spark pack but it can be attached to the same batteries the Paladin uses

Designs:
ARA Model-1913 AT “Lance” (1): Frostgiant
ARA Model-1913 GEN "SparkPack" (3): Frostgiant, Kashyyk, Jerick
ARA Model-1913MP ATV "Valkyrie" Aerial Transport Vehicle (1): Kashyyk
ARA Model-1913 AT Rifle "Halberd" (1): Jerick

Gift:
Orleans (3): Frostgiant, Kashyyk, Jerick

Harren Plan:
Plan A (1): Kashyyk
Plan B (2): Frostgiant, Jerick
Plan C (0):

[Doomblade187]

I don't think we should sell the orleans. It holds all three of our specialties. I suggest selling the scythe.

[Doubloon-Seven]

Designs:
ARA Model-1913 AT “Lance” (1): Frostgiant
ARA Model-1913 GEN "SparkPack" (4): Frostgiant, Kashyyk, Jerick, D7
ARA Model-1913MP ATV "Valkyrie" Aerial Transport Vehicle (1): Kashyyk
ARA Model-1913 AT Rifle "Halberd" (2): Jerick, D7

Gift:
Orleans (4): Frostgiant, Kashyyk, Jerick, D7
Scthye (0):

Harren Plan:
Plan A (1): Kashyyk
Plan B (3): Frostgiant, Jerick, D7
Plan C (0):

[frostgiant]

I don't think we should sell the orleans. It holds all three of our specialties. I suggest selling the scythe.

Ok, But why is that a downside? so what.
The only thing hinting about further events down the line is the line of

This will have consequences in regards to the war as it progresses,

But this could very well mean that if our allies are Really impressed (such as a skyship, something super prestigious for any form Emperor or King. The Absolutely Love Prestigious ships.) we get further Bonuses later. The scythe, for all that it is useful, is a machinegun that is lighter. useful, but let's be real here, its not that impressive, and the more we Impress the with our Gift, the more likly for recurring benefits.

[frostgiant]

Spoiler: ARA 19XX Cealium electromagnetic Lift Propulsion field (LPF) Generator. (click to show/hide)

A breakthrough in cealium technology, this new generator is mind-bending to attempt to comprehend in its entirety. Only a select few Abberans can comprehend this Form of Field manipulation. Surprisingly, this limited number include the Kind and his youngest daughter, who had no trouble understanding the Complex analogies and science obfuscation behind its creation, providing yet more evidence of the royal family’s right to rule.

The Cealium LPF generator is similar to our current cealium Generator, with a cealium crystal matrix attached to the hull, lifting the hull it is mounted on into the air when electricity is applied, This is what allows the Orleans to fly as it does and the kingmaker to hover without touching the ground.
As the Crystal matrix is attached to the hull, and as such applying its Internal field to said hull, extending the ability to stay In the air, defying gravity as the crystal itself is capable.
We had always known that the properties of cealium were effected by magnets, but recently, after 76 hours of no sleep, our most brilliant have managed something unprecedented, the ability to Shift the center of stability that the field creates.

Normally, everything effected by a cleaium crystal field, would be kept suspended in the air and stable, with the field clinging very very closely to objects that have physically contact with each other, Such as the Generator, the hull its attached to and further on towards the guns or external pieces attached to the hull.
Through the use of powerful electromagnets, placed around The cealium Crystal from which the internal field is generated, we have managed to “Push” the internal field, normal matching up perfectly with the physical form of everything effect via the energized crystal. When the field is forced away from it closely bonded nature with physical matter, it creates instability.
When instability is created, the matter will “fall” until it reaches a new state of stability (IE, the field matches up with the Physical form once again)
In other words, when the electromagnets Push a Internal cealium field in a direction, the internal field, normally bound so tightly to the physical form, will move. The physical form will then proceed to move towards the now displaced field.
if the electro magnets are applied constantly, then the internal field will stay a constant distance away from the physical matter, creating motion as the physical form is dragged forward.

Theoretically, This should mean that, as the object is falling (albeit not towards the ground) without any outside interference such as wind or extra propulsion on the hull, The maximum speed is that of terminal velocity, or 53 meters a second.

The internal field, normally bound so tight o the physical matter it is effect, actually creates a visual phenomenon, creating outlines of the matter they are pulled away from in Ghostly, Greenish blue lines. This can create a illusion of a ghost ship for the outside observer, and it is recommended to wear tinted goggles on such as craft so as to avoid the headaches that come from ghostly lines imposing themselves upon realspace.

The Electromagnets are configured into 22 (8 around the sides, and 7 on the top and bottom) different Subsections, and in any combination of such. This allows the propulsion generator to move in any direction, as the LPF doesn’t require turning to provide equal propulsion in any direction.

Of course, this propulsion comes at the expense of being a complete power hog, as the electromagnets in combination with the cealium crystal will eat power like there is not tomorrow, and one must take into account the number of electromagnets and delicate fine work that will go into such a propulsion lift system.
The LPF is in its current form design to be mounted upon airships such as the Orleans, with the bulk of the system being to much to squeeze into the current kingmaker chassis without becoming inefficient.

TLDR, its a cealium propulsion system that replaces our current cealium lifter as well. If an electromagnet repels/pulls the cealium in one direction, the Internal field will move in that direction, and the physical matter will follow.

[Kashyyk]

Whilst I like the idea of a big-ass man-portable AT gun, they are not a good idea right now. Odds are very high that we'll be fighting in Harren City this turn, and a giant gun will be a liability in such close quarters.

We primarily want it to beat their sled and any potential power armour they have, yes? Our Wickerman grenade will do that just fine at this sort of range. The Salviosi will get cooked and choked inside their metal suits, whilst their Sleds are open bottomed and leg powered, incendieries anywhere near that will shut them down.

I firmly believe we will need an AT rifle when we get to longer ranges, but not yet.

[frostgiant]

Designs:
ARA Model-1913 AT “Lance” (0):
ARA Model-1913 GEN "SparkPack" (4): Frostgiant, Kashyyk, Jerick, D7
ARA Model-1913MP ATV "Valkyrie" Aerial Transport Vehicle (1): Kashyyk
ARA Model-1913 AT Rifle "Halberd" (3): Jerick, D7, Frostgiant

Gift:
Orleans (4): Frostgiant, Kashyyk, Jerick, D7
Scthye (0):

Harren Plan:
Plan A (1): Kashyyk
Plan B (3): Frostgiant, Jerick, D7
Plan C (0):

[Doomblade187]

Doubloon, can we please add a small set of inductive coils around the promethium, with thr option to remove them if the improvements fail.

Designs:
ARA Model-1913 AT “Lance” (0):
ARA Model-1913 GEN "SparkPack" (5): Frostgiant, Kashyyk, Jerick, D7, Doomblade
ARA Model-1913MP ATV "Valkyrie" Aerial Transport Vehicle (1): Kashyyk
ARA Model-1913 AT Rifle "Halberd" (4): Jerick, D7, Frostgiant, Doomblade

Gift:
Orleans (5): Frostgiant, Kashyyk, Jerick, D7, Doomblade
Scthye (0):

Harren Plan:
Plan A (1): Kashyyk
Plan B (4): Frostgiant, Jerick, D7, Doomblade
Plan C (0):

[Man of Paper]

Votes for this phase are now locked.

[frostgiant]

Spoiler: ARA-191XARM "Valravn" Armour (click to show/hide)

The valravn armour is based off our work with cealium Generators and the paladin armour, and all of the experience we have gotten working with the materials over the past few years.

The Valravn armour is designed similar to the paladin armour, with much thinner armour that has been made out of cealium steel, and with the same form of powdered cealium applied to it. This makes the Armour weigh practically nothing while in use by the knight wearing it, due to being an Undersuit that is very similar to the paladins own, we hope it will be an easy task to have the undersuit requisitioned for use for the knights of the paladin armour.
 
This reduced weight that must be compensated for, reducing the strain on its Energy systems n comparison to the paladin’s heavy bulk.

The pilot of the Valvravn wear a similar body suit to the paladins, with the exception of the addition of heavy K-wool Supplements, Protecting the knight from much heavier punishment then the metal of its armor could normally withstand.

However, these changes alone would never be enough to waste the time of our eccentric scientists, instead they have applied much of the experience they have gained form the creation of our weight lightened equipment and our hovering vehicles. The Valravn posses a very small Cealium crystal generator, that can be turned on and off via a small Dial (IE on and off) that can be locked in place via a small latch. This latch is not easily underdone via rubbing, and should only be unlatched via a person using it.

When the Cealium Crystal generator is turned on, the knight and his armour have the same form of hovering and flying that the Orleans and Kingmakers posses, allowing them to Leap tall buildings, move at extreme speeds via pushing off the ground and easily hold themselves to areas and positions that would defy normal logic.
This system is powered via a system similar to the sparkpack, attempting to cut down the size further in order to be fitted to the small of the back, Similar to the paladins battery system. In the event that a Promethium Rod begins to run out of power, the Knight carries two replacements, and when running on theri last replacement, they will begin making their way back to base.
Sometimes a valvravn will be requisition more Promethium rods, in the event of a long term mission. In such an event, the valravn will make staches of promethium rods to return to, keeping only two rods on them.

This Promethium generator is meant to power the powdered cealium, the crystal generator when activated and any form of powered equipment that they are equipped with.

When the cealium generator is activated, the possibility of losing control is a very real worry.
To combat this, the Valravn armour posses a foot and heel spike on both feet, letting them stab them into materials to hold themselves sin place or further propel themselves.
Additionally, Attached to the hips of the Valravn armour is a pair of Electric reels, Filled with strong dark blue/ black rope, at the push of a button, any line that is extend will begin to reel itself back in, until it comes to the end of the line or the button is pressed again.
this electric reel is made to facilitate the use of a pair a grappling hooks.

These hooks are larger then normally used for just climbing, with the hooks flaring out at a much “gentler” angle, with a large barb on the end to help prevent the hook from slipping off, with a straight piece long enough to serve as a handle, with the end of the grappling hook extending into a 5 Cm long spike, almost like a spear.
These hooks are used to wrap around and hook onto terrain and objects around the Valravn, allowing them to use the electric reel to pull themselves towards and object,  swing off of an object or other such forms of movement when you are floating within the air and capable of moving as you desire.
In order to launch this chokes in a straight line, a spring-loaded mechanism has been built in the gauntlets, Which are proportionally thicker then the rest of the armour to compensate for this.
This spring-loaded mechanism launches the large grappling hooks at a very fast speed, due to the cealium crystal matrix reducing the effect of gravity on its acceleration, with this effect remaining even as it leaves the launcher, do to the rope maintaining the effect.
In order ot help bring themsleves to a stop and they do not already have a line set up to manged such, the knight can use his Grappling hook to fire it towards an object or into the ground to slow down and stop.

Of course, the fact that this grappling hook doubles as a near-silent melee weapon and makeshift crossbow as it takes advantage of this acceleration effect is merely a side benefit. its use as such meaning the valravn is capable of taking out their targets without alerting their fellows.

The Valrayn uses these benefits to act as scouts, Commando’s, Assassins or flankers. Striking and disappearing just as fast through their enhanced mobility, and reaching near impossible location for any normal human.
The equipment that a Valrvn will be given is decided before the mission begins. If the Valravn will be acting as a lone sniper, they will be equipped with a halberd, before attacking the enemy in a very hit and run style, sometimes moving towards the next position before the enemy can react to the sudden death that has been dealt.

If the valve will be sent as a scout, then they will be given little but a few whicker man grenades and a modea. If discovered, they will proceed to go “loud” using the wicker man to create smokescreens to disengage and fighting with their rifle as needed.
If the valravn are expected to be attacking an enemy position, they are given equipment similar to the standard abberan squad. Coming to bear with 2 sickles, and a mix of draco’s and modeas. Along with the standard whicker man grenades. A single Valravn Squad member will remain on overwatch, equipped with a halberd AT rifle to deal with anything that might be an overwhelming threat to the squad, such as a vehicle or a G3 position that survived the opening seconds of the fight.

 The glow of powdered cealium while activated can give away the stealthy figure of a valravn knight, so as to prevent this, the armour is covered in baggy cloth, masking the glow of the cleaum while at the same time, acting as an easy and cheap colored and patterned camouflage covering for the operation at hand.
This comes with the side benefit of making a valravn knight a truly terrifying figure, capable of unmatched feats of speed and agility, covered in ragged cloths and dark metal, wielding frightening hooks.
One could say the Valravn looks like they have walk right out of a knightmare.

The valravn scout, assasination and commando armour.
While the lighter the terrain is, the less useful it can be, it is still a very fast suit of armour that can be used in stealth operation.  In the worst case its a suit of armour plating and K-Wool. In the best case it reccreats assasin creed and the arkahm games with Salvosi replacing the NPC's.

[frostgiant]

So, confirmation about something we noticed in the salviosi designs. They use promethium as an explosive, so everything that is made with it  (IE, engines, generators) are volatile, like strapping dynamite to yourself. The salvisoi haven't noticed this fact like we have, even though they made the stuff.
So a revision this turn will need to be to create stable promethium rods that don't go boom, for the Knights and poor sods wearing sparkpacks if for nothing else.

So for a revision this turn, we need to Fix this explosive problem, and stabilise our promethium rods... so our armors and soldiers don't have explosives strapped to them that can go off in combat... that would be bad.
I present, Project FESOSO

Spoiler: Project FESOSO (Fixing Explosive Stupidity Of Salviosi Origin) (click to show/hide)

Unfortunately, Promethium rods have a minor flaw that has remained hidden through our various combat deployments due to a lack of real presence until recently. With intelligence taken from the salvisosi, and an increase in testing due to access to the materiel, we have now discovered a major flaw.

The damn stuff is explosive. Highly explosive.
This has the unfortunate side effect of making anything with promethium now the equivalent of a bomb waiting to go off. While this could be mitigated through the use of more protection and armoring on our vehicles, it remains a danger to our plans of infantry equipment.

Our knights having the equivalent of dynamite strapped to the small of their back’s, along with normal soldiers that have been given sparkpacks. With all the effort that has been taken to keep our soldiers alive, this is an absolutely unacceptable danger.

As such, this project has been created so as to solve thing problem, and luckily we have a lead on a solution. Sodium chloride (table salt), placed in a solution with water has been shown to have a remarkable effect on promethium rods that have been placed in the liquid.

The sodium part of the sodium chloride bond, seems to detach and bonds with the promethium rods, making them far more stable in molecular structure, as well as much harder in form as well, moving up 2 places on the Dou’s scale of hardness while still able to perform the same electric generating effects as regular Promethium, from burning to Piezoelectric generation.
This does mean the now loose chloride gas is released from the bond that it ha shared with the sodium, and as such all of our workers are required to wear full safety suit's as well as gas masks in order to protect themselves from this sudden release of deadly gas.

In fact, the stable structure and increased hardness means we can put more pressure on the Promethium rods during piezoelectric generation, meaning we can pull more power out in a shorter period of time. Of course, this also means that we burn through rods at a proportionally increased rate, but sometimes the increased power flow is worth it, and if not we can return to the previous levels of pressure normally used.

This new Sodium stabilized Promethium rods, now referred to in shorthand around the labs as STAP-Rods (STABilised Promethium) have an appearance different from the blackish blue of their regular counterparts, with a much more silvery blue appearance from the original blackish dark blue of normal promethium. This helps to ensure easy identification between the explosive variant and the safe variant.

Strangely, when the Promethium has depleted its energy, the sodium is much less strongly bonded. These means that a good (Boiling) water bath and a quick scrub (with full protective outfits) returns the Depleted STAP-Rods into regular depleted promethium again with the sodium dissolving into the water bath. Surprisingly, the Sodium does not seem to react with the water as it would normally, instead merely dissolving and leaving the water a steely grey colour. Currently, this byproduct solution is being stored in a holding facility.

[Doomblade187]

A quick discord download:

We can make k-wool infused resins, fiberglass, etc, as wool ignites around 550+ degrees C. This would be awesome. This does rule out glasses and alloys wothout further work though.

Edit: before I forget, here.

Sawed off shotguns with axeheads firing 20mm sabot armor piercing shells.