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[PatrikLundell]

I just gave my wife a handful of cash, so she should be in a good mood :-)

Edit: Bastard Pay Pal.  I have an old account which I can't log into because their data is corrupted.  They won't delete my account because they can't verify me.  I can't create a new account because I have an old account.  I can't pay.

I suppose it will have to be patreon, but that's going to require a significant discussion with my wife :-(

What about giving your wife the option that she opens a Pay-Pal account and pays for you?

[mikekchar]

Ah! Brilliant!  I will do that.

[KittyTac]

I would've donated if I wasn't saving up for a new PC. I'm 16, so I don't earn too much money.

[PatrikLundell]

I would've donated if I wasn't saving up for a new PC. I'm 16, so I don't earn too much money.

Then you can keep it in your mind and make a (larger) donation when you do get money...

[Shonai_Dweller]

I would've donated if I wasn't saving up for a new PC. I'm 16, so I don't earn too much money.

Don't worry, 20 years from now when Economy hits, you can make a big donation. Don't forget to become rich and successful in the meantime. (Happy with a bit of spare cash for Toady's pension works too).

[thvaz]

I didn't donate well after some 3 years of starting to play the game. I simply hadn't the means. Since then I donated pretty much every year.

[Pvt. Pirate]

Maaaan... Why doesnt he just run ads or sell merch? I mean he really easily could the game is legendary. ( Its a shame its not more well known but still ) 
-snip-

i'm glad it's not more well known. that could lead to it becoming so broadly known that they demand the game being changed beyond recognition into an effortless easypeasy sandbox.

[PlumpHelmetMan]

Yeah. DF was never intended to be a game to have mass appeal or make a lot of money. It'll probably always be a fringe game for as long as it exists, and honestly I wouldn't have it any other way.

[mikekchar]

I've been following (until very recently) Jason Rohrer's progress with One Hour One Life and I wonder if he will eventually regret the business model he's using.  That community is demanding!  It's made worse that the forum moderator is arguably participating in the inflammatory discussions.  I eventually had to give up (I'm not very tolerant of drama, LOL!).

I have always thought that Jason and Toady have a lot in common -- their games are driven more by a desire to create a work of art than to create a commercial return, and they insist on building everything themselves.  I had wondered for a long time if the voluntary donation thing was a good idea, or if it would be better to simply put a price tag on the website.  I'm definitely leaning towards the voluntary side now...

Complete aside: I wonder if they crossed paths at the recent conference (the name of which escapes me).  I'm pretty sure they were both there.

[Bumber]

With how amazing this game is he deserves to be making enough money to hire programmers and merchendise deals and have a whole team working for him...

Although, like others have said, he doesn't want that hassle. He won't work with other programmers.

[DizzyCrash]

Maaaan... Why doesnt he just run ads or sell merch? I mean he really easily could the game is legendary. ( Its a shame its not more well known but still ) 
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i'm glad it's not more well known. that could lead to it becoming so broadly known that they demand the game being changed beyond recognition into an effortless easypeasy sandbox.

That sounds elitist, hipstery, paranoid and cringey all in one post.

The game being known to more people could only help the community by getting more fanart, more fun mods, graphics/tilesets, and growth, when i joined in 2010 i feel like the commmunity was much stronger and spending time on the forums was fun cause of it... Now i feel like if i ask a question in the the modding forum i wont get a reply for a day or two, hell i made a post a weak ago and its still on the front page despite nobody commenting on it since.
A more vibrant community means a more passionate and exciting community.

But yeah the game is a fringe sorta niche game and will ever only appeal to a small number of people, usually when I get a new friend to play it they give up as learning the controls have been compared to learning french. But i do think people deserve to know about the game. Stir up a little excitement. Most the fanart is from the height of the game close to 8 years ago.

[KittyTac]

Nope. Usually, when games become mainstream, it means that the developer has been dumbing the game down. I would do everything I can to stop the community from growing much beyond its current level.

[Bumber]

Nope. Usually, when games become mainstream, it means that the developer has been dumbing the game down. I would do everything I can to stop the community from growing much beyond its current level.

Correlation does not imply causation.

[DizzyCrash]

Nope. Usually, when games become mainstream, it means that the developer has been dumbing the game down. I would do everything I can to stop the community from growing much beyond its current level.

Not surprised a 16 year thinks this.
You were only 6 years old when I joined the forum and it was at its most active. You would not even be able to comprehend what it was like at that time. So your frame of reference limited on this.
( God.. I was only a year older than you when i started playing DF )

[KittyTac]

Well, Toady himself does not want DF to become mainstream, otherwise there would be ads. Small communities > big communities.