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[NJW2000]

I prefer the simpler style. Arenas are never much more than flavour anyway.

[piecewise]

I prefer the simpler style. Arenas are never much more than flavour anyway.

Yeah, I guess I mean you could tell them to do things they couldn't do in this version. Like rip off limbs or whatever.

[Failbird105]

I'd like to see something more arena like, personally. Also

"MEATBALL!"

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dodge, if possible, and hit him with a spleen.

[piecewise]

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melee

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Ranged attack.

Bismtifula hurls a bloody whirlpool at Mepifia and the water hurls the opposing demon about, slamming it to the ground and pelting it with debris. However, despite the massive assault, Mepifia seems only mildly injured. Mepifia coils and leaps, wrapping itself around Bismitifula and squeezing it in a crushing embrace. Bismitifula, despite its size and power, seems to be more injured than one would expect from the attack.

"Good work, Peh. Now finish him."

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Melee. Melee him so hard.

I'd like to see something more arena like, personally. Also

"MEATBALL!"

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dodge, if possible, and hit him with a spleen.

Before Meatball can slither away and counterattack, Peh surges forward and sinks claw teeth into it. The claws catch hold and the demon rips its opponent in half with a single motion.


OZ WINS 

[Ozarck]

as simple as this game is, we have basically two inputs: creating a sigil, and determining among three options for combat.
once the sigil is generated, the game runs itself no apparent training, no "power points," no demonic development.

This is fine as far as it goes, but it seems like the combat could be reduced even further, or accelerated in some way, to focus the game on sigil generation rather than (wait for player b to chose between options a, b, and c.

Spoiler: spitballing ideas for streamlining gameplay (click to show/hide)

perhaps make the combat team based? not like, permanent teams, or even with real teamwork. what I mean is: divide the player pool into two groups for each tier of the tournament, with one group in control of one set of monsters and the other in control of the opponents. prioritize commands from the creator of the particular emon, but if they don't post, let the team captain (or anyone on that team) have a default action for them. then, once all combat is resolved, dissolve the teams, set up the next tier of the tournament (could even make it double elimination if you want to include more players for more of the game), and redistribute the "teams."

or just have a random action if a player fails to post within a given time.

[NJW2000]

Ranged

[Ozarck]

oh my. yotta and njw's battle is heating up. An unexpected show of strength and resilience from the underdog!

[Yottawhat]

Use Bissy's second power.

[NJW2000]

oh my. yotta and njw's battle is heating up. An unexpected show of strength and resilience from the underdog!

Yes, but what did the hearts do, and who is the underdog?

[piecewise]

Use Bissy's second power.

Ranged

Mepifia slams a corrosive body section down onto Bis and deals some serious damage. Bis again uses its second power and forms flotsam shields around itself.

[NJW2000]

Ranged

I'm now torn between the two proposed styles.

[Yottawhat]

Third Power

[Person]

as simple as this game is, we have basically two inputs: creating a sigil, and determining among three options for combat.
once the sigil is generated, the game runs itself no apparent training, no "power points," no demonic development.

This is fine as far as it goes, but it seems like the combat could be reduced even further, or accelerated in some way, to focus the game on sigil generation rather than (wait for player b to chose between options a, b, and c.

Spoiler: spitballing ideas for streamlining gameplay (click to show/hide)

perhaps make the combat team based? not like, permanent teams, or even with real teamwork. what I mean is: divide the player pool into two groups for each tier of the tournament, with one group in control of one set of monsters and the other in control of the opponents. prioritize commands from the creator of the particular emon, but if they don't post, let the team captain (or anyone on that team) have a default action for them. then, once all combat is resolved, dissolve the teams, set up the next tier of the tournament (could even make it double elimination if you want to include more players for more of the game), and redistribute the "teams."

or just have a random action if a player fails to post within a given time.

When it comes to the simplicity in player actions/combat, this game is still currently a test. Once Piecewise is satisfied I'm sure things will become rapidly more complex and interesting. I wouldn't be surprised if players end up commanding multiple demons at some point. Whether that be in this test, or in a fully realized game who knows. This is basically a post to watch really. As for the combat question, I'd prefer a bit more depth in combat. I'm not actually playing though so eh. Of course, the simplified system is probably for the best if you intend to have team based battles at any point because just having multiple targets/allies adds a lot of strategic depth innately.

[Ozarck]

as simple as this game is, we have basically two inputs: creating a sigil, and determining among three options for combat.
once the sigil is generated, the game runs itself no apparent training, no "power points," no demonic development.

This is fine as far as it goes, but it seems like the combat could be reduced even further, or accelerated in some way, to focus the game on sigil generation rather than (wait for player b to chose between options a, b, and c.

Spoiler: spitballing ideas for streamlining gameplay (click to show/hide)

perhaps make the combat team based? not like, permanent teams, or even with real teamwork. what I mean is: divide the player pool into two groups for each tier of the tournament, with one group in control of one set of monsters and the other in control of the opponents. prioritize commands from the creator of the particular emon, but if they don't post, let the team captain (or anyone on that team) have a default action for them. then, once all combat is resolved, dissolve the teams, set up the next tier of the tournament (could even make it double elimination if you want to include more players for more of the game), and redistribute the "teams."

or just have a random action if a player fails to post within a given time.

When it comes to the simplicity in player actions/combat, this game is still currently a test. Once Piecewise is satisfied I'm sure things will become rapidly more complex and interesting. I wouldn't be surprised if players end up commanding multiple demons at some point. Whether that be in this test, or in a fully realized game who knows. This is basically a post to watch really. As for the combat question, I'd prefer a bit more depth in combat. I'm not actually playing though so eh. Of course, the simplified system is probably for the best if you intend to have team based battles at any point because just having multiple targets/allies adds a lot of strategic depth innately.

Of course it's just a test. But PW specifically asked if we preferred simpler or more freeform.

my response is: I like simpler, for a fast paced tournament style game. That means that the biggest chokepoint to the action is going to be the delay between player actions. Which can be remedied by having a standard auto-action and time limit.

If the system is developed for a more complex or freeform style, however, then I think additional game mechanics are going to be needed, and the game will invariably be a slower paced one.

I like the idea of running this as a simple (double elimination) tournament game a couple times before pushing it beyond that into whatever concept PW has for the final system. That way we find more of the kinks and cracks more quickly, and can flesh it out better. Of course, the drawback is - designing in one envronment is no guarantee of success in another environment. But it's at least a start.

[piecewise]

Ranged

I'm now torn between the two proposed styles.

Third Power

Mep hurls another body section, dealing damage again. Bis attempts to use another power, lashing out with a whip made of lightning, but it has no effect.