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Re: Arms Race: Iron Behemoths - Nogrania - Turn 2
« Reply #75 on: January 06, 2018, 08:21:44 pm »

My take on Mandemon's Bear Constellation.


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NAF-AFW-51 "Hippo" Hexapod (5): Chiefwaffles, Frostgiant, Happerry, Mandemon, Stabby

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Bear Constellation (1): Mandemon
Bear in a Cross (2): Frostgiant, stabby
Uaine Glas (1): Chiefwaffles
Bonus: The Uaine Glas on a pole waving in the wind.
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You should really look to the wilderness for your stealth ideas, it has been doing it much longer than you have after all. Take squids for example, that ink trick works pretty well, and in water too! So you just sneak into the dam upsteam, dump several megatons of distressed squid into it, then break the dam. Boom, you suddenly have enough water-proof stealth for a whole city!

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Re: Arms Race: Iron Behemoths - Nogrania - Turn 2
« Reply #76 on: January 06, 2018, 08:22:39 pm »

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Bear Constellation (1): Mandemon
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Uaine Glas (2): Chiefwaffles, frostgiant

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Re: Arms Race: Iron Behemoths - Nogrania - Turn 2
« Reply #77 on: January 06, 2018, 08:23:26 pm »

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Uaine Glas (3): Chiefwaffles, frostgiant, stabby
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Re: Arms Race: Iron Behemoths - Nogrania - Turn 2
« Reply #78 on: January 06, 2018, 08:32:07 pm »

Also people should quote the votebox in order to preserve the bbcode in it.

Switching to this, since it has nice lore to go with it thanks to chat in discord.

Lore:

Uaine Glas symbolizes Nogrania and it's history. Created by British Empire as a trade outpost, many Irish were brought to serve as labor for their English overseers. To this day, you are considered 'English' if you work in white collar duties, while blue collar jobs are considered 'Irish' duties, even if nobody no longer cares what background your parents had. Green symbolizes fertile lands of Nogrania, white symbolizes British calmness and orange symbolizes the Irish who were brought to the island. Bear the is symbol of Nogrania, being one of the biggest predators on the island. Stars form the Bear Constellation, which can be seen on the northern sky.


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Uaine Glas (4): Chiefwaffles, frostgiant, stabby, Mandemon
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Re: Arms Race: Iron Behemoths - Nogrania - Turn 2
« Reply #79 on: January 07, 2018, 09:33:29 am »

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NAF-AFW-51 "Hippo" Hexapod (6): Chiefwaffles, Frostgiant, Happerry, Mandemon, Stabby, NUKE9.13

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Uaine Glas (5): Chiefwaffles, frostgiant, stabby, Mandemon, NUKE9.13
This all seems to be in order.
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Re: Arms Race: Iron Behemoths - Nogrania [NEW!]
« Reply #80 on: January 07, 2018, 06:58:11 pm »

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Design: NAF-AFW-51 "Hippo" Hexapod  (it's a tank walker)
The Armored Fighting Walker Hippo is practically what we've learned from the Paradigm applied to an improved version of the Thatcher.

It utilizes 6 legs and all-encompassing light armor. It's a bit bigger than the Thatcher, allowing for a more comfortable crewing experience (because we all know that's the ultimate goal in military engineering) and more ammo storage. Two mounts designed for weapons similar to the Wickers (though empty for now) are put into place - a coaxial mount in the armor next to the main cannon, and a pintle cupola on top of the main turret. A basic hydraulic system allows for powered control of the turret.
The legs are largely the focus of the AFW, and are aimed to be very much more refined over the prototype Paradigm. They're given thin armor and in addition to just generally being improved to operate faster, are given additional mechanical complexity to the point where the AFW-52 should be able to actually properly move in directions in fashions more similar to >2-legged animals compared to the more awkward "baby crawling" thing it does now.


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The NAF-AFW-51 "Hippo" Hexapod is an "official" tank walker.  Whereas the Paradigm was more-or-less an attempt at getting a working pair of legs down with a cannon as an afterthought, the Hippo is an actual piece of mobile armor designed to support infantry, designed from scratch to be a walker rather than relying on the Thatcher's frame.

Most notable is the increased number of legs, going from four to six.  This increases the complexity and cost, but affords the walker a few distinct advantages.  First and foremost is a more stable walk-cycle, similar to the manner in which a six-legged ant walks.  Three legs - the middle on one side and the first and third on the other - lift up and shift forward.  The remaining legs will similarly shift backwards at the same time.  The first three legs then come back down and the opposing three lift, repeating the cycle all over again.  This pattern allows the tank to move forward in a straight line rather than the zig-zag crawling pattern of the Paradigm, though getting all the legs to work in conjunction was a rather complex task.  Though the tank can turn in place and run in reverse, there are some aspects of walking that we simply haven't gotten down yet.  The walker can't turn and walk at the same time (though it can switch between them quickly), and on uneven ground all six legs may not touch down.  Regardless, the tank is notably faster than the Paradigm, and able to out-pace fully equipped soldiers on foot.

Secondly is that a single leg being taken out doesn't represent a death-sentence for the tank; the tank can survive having up to two of its legs being disabled before being rendered inert.  Unfortunately, having a leg taken out will disrupt the standard walk cycle and the driver must operate each leg manually to move.  This will greatly diminish the Hippo's speed and is a problem since the legs are protected by Thin armor as opposed to the rest of the tanks Light armor.

The Light armor on the Hippo fully envelops the body and turret, protecting it from anything less than a rifle shot at point-blank range.  A port is integrated into the turret for a Wickers-style machinegun, though it is left empty and patched over for the moment.  A second machinegun can be mounted on the commanders cupola, but is likewise left empty.  The turret encloses around one of our 2" Ironcaster Field Guns and is equipped with a hydraulic control system.  The internal space is comfortably sized, allowing crews to store a large ammo supply for extended operations.  Walker crews note that the Hippo is more pleasant to operate than our old Thatcher tank, but request that a tea-brewing station be installed in later models.  7 Ore, 3 Oil

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Re: Arms Race: Iron Behemoths - Nogrania [NEW!]
« Reply #81 on: January 07, 2018, 07:18:40 pm »

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NAF-NMG-51 "Wictor" – It's a semi-auto version of the old Wickers machine gun with purpose-designed crank fire adapter, which depresses the trigger every few degrees of rotation, making it into a very fast firing semi-auto non-machinegun. It has the added benefit of the user being able to control the firerate by changing how fast they rotate the crank. The new non-machinegun will be added to the machinegun mounts on the NAF-AFW-51 "Hippo" Hexapod. Horse packs and ski mounts on the tripod should be considered for infantry Wictors to allow incerased mobility.

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Uaine Glas (5): Chiefwaffles, frostgiant, stabby, Mandemon, NUKE9.13
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Re: Arms Race: Iron Behemoths - Nogrania [NEW!]
« Reply #82 on: January 07, 2018, 07:22:26 pm »

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Re: Arms Race: Iron Behemoths - Nogrania [NEW!]
« Reply #83 on: January 07, 2018, 09:28:33 pm »


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Re: Arms Race: Iron Behemoths - Nogrania [NEW!]
« Reply #84 on: January 07, 2018, 09:42:44 pm »


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Uaine Glas (6): Chiefwaffles, frostgiant, stabby, Mandemon, NUKE9.13, Happerry
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Re: Arms Race: Iron Behemoths - Nogrania - Turn 2, Summer 1951
« Reply #85 on: January 07, 2018, 10:15:07 pm »

The tank is great and all, but it unfortunately is a National Expense.
That means we get one tank.

If we revise the Wictor now, we get static NMG (which aren't as good as actual MG) nests and one NMG-equipped Hippo. However, if we revise a cargo transport, we get +1 TC meaning +1 Ore meaning the Hippo becomes Very Expensive instead of National Expense. Revising a cargo transport means we get a decent amount of tanks, which should have a good impact even if they don't have NMGs.
NMG-equipped Hippos is the ideal, but that's not something we can achieve this turn. Ultimately, I think numerous NMG-less Hippos would be way better than one NMG Hippo (and NMG nests), even if numerous NMG Hippos is better.

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Revision: NAF-UV-51 "Whale"
(Utility Vessel 1951)

We take the Herald-class Destroyer, throw all the guns and armor and whatnot offboard, then we make room for cargo. Then we use it as a cargo ship.
It's not much space, but it's significantly more than "nothing" so we'll take it.


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NAF-NMG-51 "Wictor" (4): Kot, Mandemom, Happerry, stabby
NAF-UV-51 "Whale" (1): Chiefwaffles

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Uaine Glas (6): Chiefwaffles, frostgiant, stabby, Mandemon, NUKE9.13, Happerry
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Re: Arms Race: Iron Behemoths - Nogrania - Turn 2, Summer 1951
« Reply #86 on: January 07, 2018, 10:17:51 pm »

The tank is great and all, but it unfortunately is a National Expense.
That means we get one tank.
This is actually true.

If we revise the Wictor now, we get static NMG (which aren't as good as actual MG) nests and one NMG-equipped Hippo.
Reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

However, if we revise a cargo transport, we get +1 TC meaning +1 Ore meaning the Hippo becomes Very Expensive instead of National Expense. Revising a cargo transport means we get a decent amount of tanks, which should have a good impact even if they don't have NMGs.
NMG-equipped Hippos is the ideal, but that's not something we can achieve this turn. Ultimately, I think numerous NMG-less Hippos would be way better than one NMG Hippo (and NMG nests), even if numerous NMG Hippos is better.
Numerous NMG equipped Hippos would be better.

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NAF-NMG-51 "Wictor" (3): Mandemom, Happerry, stabby
NAF-UV-51 "Whale" (2): Chiefwaffles, Kot

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Uaine Glas (6): Chiefwaffles, frostgiant, stabby, Mandemon, NUKE9.13, Happerry
Goddamnit I hoped we will at least get one turn of NMG suprise.
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Re: Arms Race: Iron Behemoths - Nogrania - Turn 2, Summer 1951
« Reply #87 on: January 08, 2018, 12:35:46 am »

Design: NNF-FB-1a 'Sea Lance': A small two tube torpedo launcher for use on ships. It has a maximum range of 8Km and a max effective range of about 1.5km. The torpedoes travel at about 36 knots. The torpedoes are British made Bliss-Leavitt Mark 8 torpedoes that have been leased to us.
   The intention of the Sea Lance is for it to be mounted on our Herald-class destroyers. This would allow us to better deal with Toskesh's navy.

Future Design: NNF-SS-51 Scorpion-class Submarine: Our first submersible craft. Designed to go to 150m underwater with a surface speed of 12 knots and an underwater speed of 8 knots. It will have two forward facing torpedo tubes. The boat is 32.2m with a displacement of 207 long tons when submerged. The crew complement is 11 crew members.
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Re: Arms Race: Iron Behemoths - Nogrania - Turn 2, Summer 1951
« Reply #88 on: January 08, 2018, 02:27:13 am »

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NAF-NMG-51 "Wictor" (2): Mandemom, stabby
NAF-UV-51 "Whale" (3): Chiefwaffles, Kot, Happerry

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Uaine Glas (6): Chiefwaffles, frostgiant, stabby, Mandemon, NUKE9.13, Happerry
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Re: Arms Race: Iron Behemoths - Nogrania - Turn 2, Summer 1951
« Reply #89 on: January 08, 2018, 04:38:20 am »

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NAF-NMG-51 "Wictor" (2): Mandemom, stabby
NAF-UV-51 "Whale" (4): Chiefwaffles, Kot, Happerry, BBBence

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Uaine Glas (7): Chiefwaffles, frostgiant, stabby, Mandemon, NUKE9.13, Happerry, BBBence
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