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Author Topic: [MODDING] 0.44.x GENERAL MODDING QUESTIONS THREAD - NOW IN ALLCAPS EDITION  (Read 187847 times)

Hugo_The_Dwarf

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Re: [MODDING] 0.44.x GENERAL MODDING QUESTIONS THREAD - NOW IN ALLCAPS EDITION
« Reply #1185 on: June 26, 2019, 03:07:38 pm »
Quote from: IndigoSnake on June 26, 2019, 04:16:02 am
Quote from: Eric Blank on June 25, 2019, 01:15:24 pm
You could use the syndrome to grant an on_self interaction that triggers the interaction you really want.
Am I correct in saying those are only used during combat in the current version?
'Tis a shame I can't just make a syndrome that only affects [CAN_LEARN] creatures without making it either an interaction OR giving every single [CAN_LEARN] creature a creature-class.

Also, is there an eloquent way to make every material/body-part on a creature cause a syndrome when eaten?

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add snydrome stuff here, mainly SNY_INJESTED should be an intake type
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« Reply #1186 on: June 27, 2019, 02:45:46 am »
Quote from: Hugo_The_Dwarf on June 26, 2019, 03:07:38 pm
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add snydrome stuff here, mainly SNY_INJESTED should be an intake type
Awesome, thanks! Interestingly, it would appear that creatures with GOBBLE_VERMIN will never contract syndromes for eating live vermin. Eating prepared vermin, ala [FISHITEM], will though.

EDIT: Eating live vermin in adventure mode will also trigger it... Hmm...
« Last Edit: June 27, 2019, 03:17:54 am by IndigoSnake »
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« Reply #1187 on: June 28, 2019, 11:43:07 am »
Is there a way to give a wild animal weapons and armor? Or does all equipment come at the entity level
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« Reply #1188 on: June 28, 2019, 12:03:20 pm »
Quote from: brolol.404 on June 28, 2019, 11:43:07 am
Is there a way to give a wild animal weapons and armor? Or does all equipment come at the entity level

Well, as far as I'm aware, what the game calls weapons and armor does indeed relate to a creature being able to equip the items themselves. Which occurs at the entity level but when it comes to post-gen play, creatures that don't normally equip things that have the proper tags have been seen picking up weapons and armor to use as weapons. For example I've come across both a giant that wielded an artifact mitten she'd stolen, and a cyclops wielding a stolen silver mace. But you can't just give them the equipment directly without them being in an entity iirc. If you don't mind simply simulating a wild creature having them, you can give it a layer of metal/leather/chain over its normal tissues and a "weapon" part attached to their intended grasping part that they attack with.
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« Reply #1189 on: June 28, 2019, 12:08:23 pm »
Quote from: EternalCaveDragon on June 28, 2019, 12:03:20 pm
Quote from: brolol.404 on June 28, 2019, 11:43:07 am
Is there a way to give a wild animal weapons and armor? Or does all equipment come at the entity level

Well, as far as I'm aware, what the game calls weapons and armor does indeed relate to a creature being able to equip the items themselves. Which occurs at the entity level but when it comes to post-gen play, creatures that don't normally equip things that have the proper tags have been seen picking up weapons and armor to use as weapons. For example I've come across both a giant that wielded an artifact mitten she'd stolen, and a cyclops wielding a stolen silver mace. But you can't just give them the equipment directly without them being in an entity iirc. If you don't mind simply simulating a wild creature having them, you can give it a layer of metal/leather/chain over its normal tissues and a "weapon" part attached to their intended grasping part that they attack with.

Thanks. I considered this but would the combat log be strange and say things like you cut off their short sword and blood went everywhere?
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Re: [MODDING] 0.44.x GENERAL MODDING QUESTIONS THREAD - NOW IN ALLCAPS EDITION
« Reply #1190 on: June 28, 2019, 12:14:56 pm »
Not neccesarily - its possible to remove vascularity from tissues so that they don't bleed. You'd then cut off the "short sword" limb and it'd go flying but wouldn't cause bleeding. Of course it wouldn't be usable as a short sword immediately though (but you could set up an extra butchering object so you get, lets say, a bronze short sword from butchering that creature).
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« Reply #1191 on: June 28, 2019, 12:18:06 pm »
Quote from: ZM5 on June 28, 2019, 12:14:56 pm
Not neccesarily - its possible to remove vascularity from tissues so that they don't bleed. You'd then cut off the "short sword" limb and it'd go flying but wouldn't cause bleeding. Of course it wouldn't be usable as a short sword immediately though (but you could set up an extra butchering object so you get, lets say, a bronze short sword from butchering that creature).

^What this person said.
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« Reply #1192 on: June 28, 2019, 12:27:25 pm »
Thanks. I'll play around with this. I think it will work really well for what I am doing.
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Re: [MODDING] 0.44.x GENERAL MODDING QUESTIONS THREAD - NOW IN ALLCAPS EDITION
« Reply #1193 on: June 28, 2019, 02:01:34 pm »

Example creature "animated armor" that has weapons as body parts, by Deon, feel free to use all of it or parts of it.

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Re: [MODDING] 0.44.x GENERAL MODDING QUESTIONS THREAD - NOW IN ALLCAPS EDITION
« Reply #1194 on: June 28, 2019, 02:20:06 pm »
Quote from: TomiTapio on June 28, 2019, 02:01:34 pm

Example creature "animated armor" that has weapons as body parts, by Deon, feel free to use all of it or parts of it.

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Awesome. Thanks for this. this will be a lot for me to digest but will be really helpful. How/where do I define the body parts? (i.e. [BODY:ARMOR:SWORD:SHIELD])
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Re: [MODDING] 0.44.x GENERAL MODDING QUESTIONS THREAD - NOW IN ALLCAPS EDITION
« Reply #1195 on: June 28, 2019, 02:30:05 pm »
You mean where are new body parts themselves defined, or where to put them in the creature file?

You'd define the body parts in a body_x.txt file, like body_default is where vanilla body parts are defined.
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Re: [MODDING] 0.44.x GENERAL MODDING QUESTIONS THREAD - NOW IN ALLCAPS EDITION
« Reply #1196 on: June 28, 2019, 03:49:55 pm »
Quote from: Eric Blank on June 28, 2019, 02:30:05 pm
You mean where are new body parts themselves defined, or where to put them in the creature file?

You'd define the body parts in a body_x.txt file, like body_default is where vanilla body parts are defined.

Thanks. I'll take a look at it
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« Reply #1197 on: June 28, 2019, 05:08:30 pm »
So, I think I got most of it, but I am getting the following errors:

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I noticed that I have the following switched, but I don't think that would cause the error:

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« Last Edit: June 28, 2019, 05:37:28 pm by brolol.404 »
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« Reply #1198 on: June 28, 2019, 05:32:13 pm »
You are calling the material ARMOR_F and ARMOR_H when you define it then ARMOR_RF etc... When you use it in the tissues
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« Reply #1199 on: June 28, 2019, 05:38:56 pm »
Quote from: Roses on June 28, 2019, 05:32:13 pm
You are calling the material ARMOR_F and ARMOR_H when you define it then ARMOR_RF etc... When you use it in the tissues

Awesome thanks. I see it now
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