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[Vordak]

Will we also see elfes, goblins and humans drawn in this fassion?

I can not finish the dwarves, what kind of elves and others are there in such situations? If I start to draw them then there is no end of work. It is necessary to try very much that they would be very different from dwarves - new cloth patterns, hats, different exclusive weapons, another other color palette - I'm not ready for this kind of work.
P.S. Someone (can not remember who) already draws elves, more precisely their variation - high elves.

[jecowa]

Drawing every profession is a large task. Maybe doing just a few of them would be less daunting. What tags/jobs for members of the other civilizations would be seen most by the player? Here's some guesses:

Spoiler: guesses at most commonly-seen foreign civ tags (click to show/hide)

DEFAULT   – Fallback tile
CHILD
BABY   – Not sure how often the CHILD & BABY in other civs are seen, but seems like good ones to have.

DRUNK
ADVENTURER  – This is what the player's character will look like if playing in adventure mode.
TRADER
DIPLOMAT  – I'm not sure if this is a real tag, but it's listed on the wiki.

These are the new ones added in DF v0.44 that are used for some new fortress visitors (or something like that):
CRIMINAL
PEDDLER
PROPHET
PILGRIM
MONK

ANIMATED  – aka Zombies
GHOST  – not sure if foreign civ members will turn into ghosts if you don't inter

For the military, I'm not sure which weapons are used most by the various civilizations. Maybe they would all at least have a wrestler for unarmed attacks? Oh, I found the list of weapons they are able to use or something in entity_default.txt.

Elf weapons:

Spoiler: elf army (click to show/hide)

SWORDSMAN
SPEARMAN
BOWMAN

Kobold weapons:

Spoiler: kobold army (click to show/hide)

SWORDSMAN
SPEARMAN
BOWMAN
THIEF

Humans weapons:

Spoiler: human army (click to show/hide)

LASHER
AXEMAN
HAMMERMAN
SWORDSMAN
SPEARMAN
MACEMAN
CROSSBOWMAN
BOWMAN
PIKEMAN

Goblin weapons:

Spoiler: goblin army (click to show/hide)

LASHER
AXEMAN
HAMMERMAN
SWORDSMAN
SPEARMAN
MACEMAN
CROSSBOWMAN
BOWMAN
PIKEMAN
THIEF - (Goblins look the same as humans with the addition of thief.)

Kobolds are simpler and might not need as many tags as the others. These are the only tags included for Kobolds in Phoebus and its sister Obsidian:

Spoiler: Sphr Kobold tags (click to show/hide)

STANDARD
DEFAULT
CHILD
THIEF
MASTER_THIEF

RECRUIT
WRESTLER
SPEARMAN
SWORDSMAN
BOWMAN

CHAMPION
MASTER_WRESTLER
MASTER_SPEARMAN
MASTER_SWORDSMAN
MASTER_BOWMAN

[Vordak]

With military units there are no special problems. The stumbling block is a peaceful professions.
But as I said - now I am improving dwarves, later I'll finish their dark\evil variation. And only after all this it will be possible to speak about others races.

[Vordak]

RELEASE 0.6.0

The height of dwarf reduced by 1 pixel and redraw dwarves with more detailing.

Spoiler: Dwarves 0.6.0-x2 (click to show/hide)

Spoiler: Dwarves 0.6.0-x1 (click to show/hide)

Download link - v0.6.0

How to install:
1) Install Meph Tileset V2.3.
2) Delete next Meph Tileset files:
    ...\raw\graphics\graphics_dwarves.txt
3) Delete if there is a file:
    ...\raw\graphics\graphics_example.txt
4) Archive with this mod unzip into the game folder with overwriting.
5) Do not forget to update your save.

Compatibility for Meph Tileset - 32x graphic pack with TWBT - v2.3
or Meph Tileset Launcher + Utilities - v2.3.

Below you can see the difference between tiles of Meph set v2.3 (left pic.) and Vordak set v0.6.0 (right pic.).

Spoiler: _MDF_items (click to show/hide)

Spoiler: _MDF_decorations (click to show/hide)

Spoiler: _MDF_decorations_2 (click to show/hide)

Spoiler: _MDF_trees (click to show/hide)

Spoiler: Meph_32x32 (click to show/hide)

Upd. Сhanged the sprites of sand and barren floors, sand walls, see example below. Version number of the set has remained the same - just re-download.

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

[Nefarian]

Hey Vordak, great work as always

I wanted to ask if it's there is a way to use the fortress/royal guard for the militia units instead of the normal ones, afaik you never see the fortress and royal guard units if you're playing fortress mode and imo it's a bit sad that you never get to see them, especially considering how cool they look.

[Vordak]

I wanted to ask if it's there is a way to use the fortress/royal guard for the militia units instead of the normal ones, afaik you never see the fortress and royal guard units if you're playing fortress mode and imo it's a bit sad that you never get to see them, especially considering how cool they look.

Go to raw\graphics\graphics_Vordak_dwarves.txt and replace next lines LAW_ENFORCE\TAX_ESCORT to DEFAULT:

Spoiler: replace to fortress guard (click to show/hide)

Code: [Select]

30 - Law Enforcers
[MILITIA_CAPTAIN:VORDAK_D:7:27:AS_IS:DEFAULT]
[MILITIA_COMMANDER:VORDAK_D:0:31:AS_IS:DEFAULT]
[RECRUIT:VORDAK_D:0:30:AS_IS:DEFAULT]
[WRESTLER:VORDAK_D:1:30:AS_IS:DEFAULT]
[SWORDSMAN:VORDAK_D:2:30:AS_IS:DEFAULT]
[AXEMAN:VORDAK_D:3:30:AS_IS:DEFAULT]
[HAMMERMAN:VORDAK_D:4:30:AS_IS:DEFAULT]
[MACEMAN:VORDAK_D:5:30:AS_IS:DEFAULT]
[SPEARMAN:VORDAK_D:6:30:AS_IS:DEFAULT]
[LASHER:VORDAK_D:7:30:AS_IS:DEFAULT]
[PIKEMAN:VORDAK_D:8:30:AS_IS:DEFAULT]
[CROSSBOWMAN:VORDAK_D:9:30:AS_IS:DEFAULT]
[BLOWGUNMAN:VORDAK_D:10:30:AS_IS:DEFAULT]
[BOWMAN:VORDAK_D:11:30:AS_IS:DEFAULT]

31 - Law Enforcers (Masters)
[CHAMPION::VORDAK_D:0:31:AS_IS:DEFAULT]
[MASTER_WRESTLER:VORDAK_D:1:31:AS_IS:DEFAULT]
[MASTER_SWORDSMAN:VORDAK_D:2:31:AS_IS:DEFAULT]
[MASTER_AXEMAN:VORDAK_D:3:31:AS_IS:DEFAULT]
[MASTER_HAMMERMAN:VORDAK_D:4:31:AS_IS:DEFAULT]
[MASTER_MACEMAN:VORDAK_D:5:31:AS_IS:DEFAULT]
[MASTER_SPEARMAN:VORDAK_D:6:31:AS_IS:DEFAULT]
[MASTER_LASHER:VORDAK_D:7:31:AS_IS:DEFAULT]
[MASTER_PIKEMAN:VORDAK_D:8:31:AS_IS:DEFAULT]
[MASTER_CROSSBOWMAN:VORDAK_D:9:31:AS_IS:DEFAULT]
[MASTER_BLOWGUNMAN:VORDAK_D:10:31:AS_IS:DEFAULT]
[MASTER_BOWMAN:VORDAK_D:11:31:AS_IS:DEFAULT]

Spoiler: replace to royal guard (click to show/hide)

Code: [Select]

32 - Tax Escorts
[MILITIA_CAPTAIN:VORDAK_D:0:33:AS_IS:DEFAULT]
[MILITIA_COMMANDER:VORDAK_D:0:33:AS_IS:DEFAULT]
[RECRUIT:VORDAK_D:0:32:AS_IS:DEFAULT]
[WRESTLER:VORDAK_D:1:32:AS_IS:DEFAULT]
[SWORDSMAN:VORDAK_D:2:32:AS_IS:DEFAULT]
[AXEMAN:VORDAK_D:3:32:AS_IS:DEFAULT]
[HAMMERMAN:VORDAK_D:4:32:AS_IS:DEFAULT]
[MACEMAN:VORDAK_D:5:32:AS_IS:DEFAULT]
[SPEARMAN:VORDAK_D:6:32:AS_IS:DEFAULT]
[LASHER:VORDAK_D:7:32:AS_IS:DEFAULT]
[PIKEMAN:VORDAK_D:8:32:AS_IS:DEFAULT]
[CROSSBOWMAN:VORDAK_D:9:32:AS_IS:DEFAULT]
[BLOWGUNMAN:VORDAK_D:10:32:AS_IS:DEFAULT]
[BOWMAN:VORDAK_D:11:32:AS_IS:DEFAULT]

33 - Tax Escorts (Masters)
[CHAMPION::VORDAK_D:0:33:AS_IS:DEFAULT]
[MASTER_WRESTLER:VORDAK_D:1:33:AS_IS:DEFAULT]
[MASTER_SWORDSMAN:VORDAK_D:2:33:AS_IS:DEFAULT]
[MASTER_AXEMAN:VORDAK_D:3:33:AS_IS:DEFAULT]
[MASTER_HAMMERMAN:VORDAK_D:4:33:AS_IS:DEFAULT]
[MASTER_MACEMAN:VORDAK_D:5:33:AS_IS:DEFAULT]
[MASTER_SPEARMAN:VORDAK_D:6:33:AS_IS:DEFAULT]
[MASTER_LASHER:VORDAK_D:7:33:AS_IS:DEFAULT]
[MASTER_PIKEMAN:VORDAK_D:8:33:AS_IS:DEFAULT]
[MASTER_CROSSBOWMAN:VORDAK_D:9:33:AS_IS:DEFAULT]
[MASTER_BLOWGUNMAN:VORDAK_D:10:33:AS_IS:DEFAULT]

Spoiler: replace to WHFB slayers (click to show/hide)

Code: [Select]

40 - Monster slayers
[MILITIA_CAPTAIN:VORDAK_D:0:41:AS_IS:DEFAULT]
[MILITIA_COMMANDER:VORDAK_D:0:41:AS_IS:DEFAULT]
[RECRUIT:VORDAK_D:0:40:AS_IS:DEFAULT]
[WRESTLER:VORDAK_D:1:40:AS_IS:DEFAULT]
[SWORDSMAN:VORDAK_D:2:40:AS_IS:DEFAULT]
[AXEMAN:VORDAK_D:3:40:AS_IS:DEFAULT]
[HAMMERMAN:VORDAK_D:4:40:AS_IS:DEFAULT]
[MACEMAN:VORDAK_D:5:40:AS_IS:DEFAULT]
[SPEARMAN:VORDAK_D:6:40:AS_IS:DEFAULT]
[LASHER:VORDAK_D:7:40:AS_IS:DEFAULT]
[PIKEMAN:VORDAK_D:8:40:AS_IS:DEFAULT]
[CROSSBOWMAN:VORDAK_D:9:40:AS_IS:DEFAULT]
[BLOWGUNMAN:VORDAK_D:10:40:AS_IS:DEFAULT]
[BOWMAN:VORDAK_D:11:40:AS_IS:DEFAULT]

41 - Monster slayers (Masters)
[CHAMPION::VORDAK_D:0:41:AS_IS:DEFAULT]
[MASTER_WRESTLER:VORDAK_D:1:41:AS_IS:DEFAULT]
[MASTER_SWORDSMAN:VORDAK_D:2:41:AS_IS:DEFAULT]
[MASTER_AXEMAN:VORDAK_D:3:41:AS_IS:DEFAULT]
[MASTER_HAMMERMAN:VORDAK_D:4:41:AS_IS:DEFAULT]
[MASTER_MACEMAN:VORDAK_D:5:41:AS_IS:DEFAULT]
[MASTER_SPEARMAN:VORDAK_D:6:41:AS_IS:DEFAULT]
[MASTER_LASHER:VORDAK_D:7:41:AS_IS:DEFAULT]
[MASTER_PIKEMAN:VORDAK_D:8:41:AS_IS:DEFAULT]
[MASTER_CROSSBOWMAN:VORDAK_D:9:41:AS_IS:DEFAULT]
[MASTER_BLOWGUNMAN:VORDAK_D:10:41:AS_IS:DEFAULT]
[MASTER_BOWMAN:VORDAK_D:11:41:AS_IS:DEFAULT]

In lines 28 and 29 do not need to change anything - priority is given to the code that goes below. By analogy, you can replace Militia with others (mercenary, scouts and beast hunters).

p.s. Do not forget do it also in your save file.
p.s.2. Added to the examples of replacement and for officers.

[Nefarian]

Thanks Vordak, it worked. Now my fortress is a lot more colorful with the Royal Guards going around!

[jecowa]

I'm curious about the different backgrounds for vermin in your version and Meph's version of Meph_32x32.png. Meph's vermin backgrounds are completely opaque while yours are a bit transparent. Are there advantages and disadvantages to both of these?

[BionicMeatloaf]

once you have all of your other goals knocked out of the way, do you think you'll be making sprites unique to female dwarves? Or does the way that the game handle sprites make that difficult to display correctly? Or does it simply just add too much workload to an already daunting task?

[jecowa]

Different sprite for different genders isn't really supported. The only way to do it involves a hacky mod to the game. And even then it would only allow 2 sprites to be used for them (a male sprite and a female sprite). You would need to sacrifice having job-specific sprites to have gender-specific sprites.

The best way to make the sprites match better with both the males and females is to change a line in /raw/objects/creature_standard.txt. Search for "To add beards, put brackets around the following". The add a "[" and "]" character to the next line to give female dwarves their beards back. Beards are a source of pride for every dwarf; it's only right that they have them too.

[Vordak]

About vermins:
As I know sprites of vermins do not support transparency - which leads to a black background - so made this interim solution. Gray opaque background stands out strongly from the general picture.

About female dwarves:
If the game had the ability to make graphics according to gender, then I would be able to draw some sprites, by one sprite on the type of profession. But first need to determine if they have a beard or not)) - in general, while will not draw.

About other goals:
See post №2 in this thread.

[Pvt. Pirate]

Dwarven Women do have beards. They'd not be Dorfs if they had no beards. but then how would one discriminate males and females?

[Meph]

once you have all of your other goals knocked out of the way, do you think you'll be making sprites unique to female dwarves? Or does the way that the game handle sprites make that difficult to display correctly? Or does it simply just add too much workload to an already daunting task?

It's currently not possible to add sprites for different castes/genders.

[Pvt. Pirate]

once you have all of your other goals knocked out of the way, do you think you'll be making sprites unique to female dwarves? Or does the way that the game handle sprites make that difficult to display correctly? Or does it simply just add too much workload to an already daunting task?

It's currently not possible to add sprites for different castes/genders.

is it on toady's plan?

[Meph]

No.