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Metalsoul212

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Re: Can't get my marksdwarfs to train!
« Reply #30 on: July 27, 2017, 06:36:52 pm »

Well the third year has begun. Still no sieges besides the massive intake of goblins to the tavern. I wonder, If I order my military to butcher the goblin poets and adventures in the tavern and let a couple escape. Would they go home and report the my crimes against goblinkind and return with an army?
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Re: Can't get my marksdwarfs to train!
« Reply #31 on: July 27, 2017, 06:50:49 pm »

Keep in mind that if you want to offend a civilization, you need to transgress against their ethics, not yours. Goblins don't care about murder.
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Metalsoul212

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Re: Can't get my marksdwarfs to train!
« Reply #32 on: July 27, 2017, 09:00:30 pm »

That makes sense! However its been determined already that they are hostile with me. Today I had a human caravan come and instead of ignoring the history babbling, where they talk about events happening in the world, I decided to open my ear for once in the hopes that I could glen some information about the whereabouts of the goblin armies. It seems the goblins have been very active. Two armies, The Excavated Spider and The Nasty Malice, in particular have been sacking and raiding human villages all over the area. There are other armies being reported as well though none as active as the main two. So there is definitely lots of goblins active in the area, its just a question of when their hordes will turn their attention towards my growing mountain home!
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Re: Can't get my marksdwarfs to train!
« Reply #33 on: July 27, 2017, 11:06:20 pm »

The goblins in your tavern are mainly goblins from your own civ or the nearby human civ. Real goblins won't care if you slaughter the lot.

Members of performance troupes in your tavern might be from a real goblin civ, but I don't think real goblins care about them either.
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Metalsoul212

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Re: Can't get my marksdwarfs to train!
« Reply #34 on: August 02, 2017, 01:30:13 pm »

So I'm now in year four, the 50 dwarf strong military is being outfitted with adamatine and steel. And are all masters of their art. Recently had the out Post liasion move in but curiously the monarch didn't show up! Quite confused as the royal gaurds with legendary skills showed up with the liasion! Still no goblins armies at the granite Gates of Gemspears. The elves never made a visit yet either! The humans haven't showed up in over a year too. Thinking of breaking into the HFS for the first time to end the boredom of my massive military. But where are the damn goblins!!!!!
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Re: Can't get my marksdwarfs to train!
« Reply #35 on: August 02, 2017, 02:02:03 pm »

Either your caravans' stuck on map edge, or the elves and humans are at war with you and attacking elsewhere.

Tried legends mode/fixing things with script?

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Re: Can't get my marksdwarfs to train!
« Reply #36 on: August 02, 2017, 05:21:58 pm »

I couldn't get dfhack to export the legends view it always says I have to be on the main legends page and when I was it still didn't work. Not sure how to even use legends mode obviously! What kind of scripts could I use? Never got any notifications without a caravan or anything
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Re: Can't get my marksdwarfs to train!
« Reply #37 on: August 02, 2017, 05:28:41 pm »

I couldn't get dfhack to export the legends view it always says I have to be on the main legends page and when I was it still didn't work. Not sure how to even use legends mode obviously! What kind of scripts could I use? Never got any notifications without a caravan or anything
Make a copy of your save. Retire. Open Legends Mode. Hit x. Wait a while, hit p. Then open Legends Viewer (or whatever external viewer you prefer) and point it at your DF directory which will have a region file.

You don't need Dfhack to find out where your goblins are.

On the other hand, if your caravans are stuck in limbo somewhere due to a bug, there's a dfhack script to fix that.
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Re: Can't get my marksdwarfs to train!
« Reply #38 on: August 02, 2017, 08:03:24 pm »

So after trying to learn my way around using the legends viewer I've become even more confused! Even thought I genned a large world all the way to year 1050 it seems dwarves are the weakest population with only 29,500 pops. The goblins themselves have a population of over 10x me at around 396,000 pops. Seems like there are tons of goblins living in relatively close proximity from my fortress with populations in tens of thousands. Hell there is even a kobold cave with 350 of the thieves that have yet to even attempt a break in! The more I dig into the legends the more confused as to why there doesn't seem to be anything attacking me!
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Re: Can't get my marksdwarfs to train!
« Reply #39 on: August 02, 2017, 08:50:09 pm »

What's your population?
Are goblins at war with anyone else? You mentioned a big bunch of elves nearby. Are they attacking anyone?

Not sure if caravan bug effects incoming armies. Would be amusing if that dfhack script revealed 5 lost sieges...

Goblins are immortal and don't need to eat or drink. It's highly likely they'll outnumber everyone else.
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Re: Can't get my marksdwarfs to train!
« Reply #40 on: August 02, 2017, 09:19:32 pm »

Yes, it does affect armies. I recall the original poster of "teleport bugged units to map" had hundreds of goblins.

Ditto on the goblins, but note that what you should be prioritizing is site closest to you, as you get only sieged from 1 site per civ.

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Re: Can't get my marksdwarfs to train!
« Reply #41 on: August 02, 2017, 09:57:41 pm »

The elves seem to be going at it just as much as the goblins. All the sites closest to me are populated with over 10k ea. Elves and goblins alike! What is the DF hack script to unbug units? I'm ready for a super siege any day! Kinda want to see this fort fall I'm getting kinda sick of it now lol
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Re: Can't get my marksdwarfs to train!
« Reply #42 on: August 02, 2017, 10:01:15 pm »

The elves seem to be going at it just as much as the goblins. All the sites closest to me are populated with over 10k ea. Elves and goblins alike! What is the DF hack script to unbug units? I'm ready for a super siege any day! Kinda want to see this fort fall I'm getting kinda sick of it now lol
If the goblins don't turn up, just dig down for a while...
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Re: Can't get my marksdwarfs to train!
« Reply #43 on: August 03, 2017, 01:06:27 am »

Other indications of stuck armies/caravans are weapons, clothing and armor, that are shown on a stock screen in red, and if you try to center on them, it will show empty tile somewhere on the edge of the map. If stuck units are the case, than you need dfhack scripts, I used this in one of my older forts.
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Re: Can't get my marksdwarfs to train!
« Reply #44 on: August 03, 2017, 01:56:03 am »

I can confirm that in 0.43.5 you can and will get sieges from goblins, even if you are under the population limit of 80. For my last few forts, i set the absolute population limit to 50 or lower, embarked near a Dark Fortress, and after 2-3 years the first goblinite will appear!
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