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[Khang36]

Hm... you make a good point there ram, at the same time though leapfrog lays the ground work for smaller organised unit strictures like companies, and platoons.

[Doubloon-Seven]

I'd really like to know if we have to get the engineers to design a shovel first, or if it's just assumed that of course we have shovels.

[Madman198237]

I believe that it's a "No duh we have shovels, how did you think we made latrines" sort of thing.

That said, if we would like a Spetsnaz-level shovel balanced throwing and sharpened for direct application of force to vulnerable body parts, we probably need to get the designed or revised by them.

[Zanzetkuken The Great]

I'd really like to know if we have to get the engineers to design a shovel first, or if it's just assumed that of course we have shovels.

You have what is listed.  If it is not listed, you do not have it.  I only added bayonets as one of the doctrines specified that bayonets were used.

[Khang36]

Would we need to ask the engineers for entrenching tools to get shovels? Or can we start getting them once we work out a doctrine for it?

[Zanzetkuken The Great]

Would we need to ask the engineers for entrenching tools to get shovels? Or can we start getting them once we work out a doctrine for it?

You would need to ask the engineers for them and other equipment.  The reason you got bayonets edited in was due to a starting doctrine specifically mentioning them.

[RAM]

I propose a docrtine in which our infantry form tight wedge formations and advance directly upon the enemy cannons.

[Doubloon-Seven]

(0) Cannon guards:
(3) Leapfrog Fire- Doubloonseven, khang36, Iituem
(0) Entrenched Defense-
(0) Unspecified Skirmish Doctrine-
(0) Unspecified Wedge Attack Doctrine-

Propositions are good and all, but we have four separate doctrines without votes, two without names, so we should either agree that proposing a doctrine is automatic vote, or start +1ing things.

[Iituem]

+1 to Leapfrog doctrine.  Let's develop organisational training and next turn we can look into ordering entrenching tools.

[Khang36]

We will probably ask for an over all update to their kit and uniform as well since entrenching tools is a rather trivial addition. Though not entirely sure what should be part of this new uniform.

[Doubloon-Seven]

I have to argue that point. Entrenching tools allow for better sanitation, and a very efficient, for it's cost, defense measure. Equipment is good, but in my opinion is kinda trivial at the moment, given that the Russian Empire is right at out door.

[Khang36]

Oh no what i meant was that it is a trivialy easy to get as a design request so i figured we ask for other thing as well to update our soilder's kit and uniforms.

[Doubloon-Seven]

Ah, okay. Nevermind.

[Zanzetkuken The Great]

Leapfrog Fire: A line of infantry fires at the enemy, and a line behind it advances in front, guns loaded. They fire while the infantry behind them are reloading, and the process repeats to keep up an ongoing barrage at the enemy. There can be anywhere from two to six separate lines of fire in the leapfrog.

Roll : Hard : 2

Implementation of the doctrine has shown it to be quite effective at increasing rate of fire while advancing.  However, the rate of fire of the Imperial Musket means that in order to have an improved rate of fire for an individual column of soldiers, the individual lines need to be much shorter in length, which reduces the total amount of shot fired off at once.


A meeting has been called between the Engineers and the Generals in the primary thread.  It will not begin immediately as the Engineers will be creating a presentation over how the design is to be presented.  I am not letting them copy-paste the description outright, so keep in mind after the presentation that you may want to ask questions.  Feel free to roleplay the perspective of the general you are when doing so.  Could be a bit of fun replicating a dialogue similar to what was done in the Pentagon Wars with the design of the Bradley.

[Khang36]

Wow these engineers are deflecting so hard it hurts.