Protect, night action. Used on doll N1
Now this is interesting. Flabort does not indicate that his kill pierces protection, so unless I'm missing something, this means that if Hector's truthful, doll died otherwise. That is, by acting. By killing.
I feel confident in saying that we only have one per-cycle nightkiller. One kill each N2 and N3. One kill today. Of the three kills N1, 1 is the abductkill, 1 is doll's death (action was suicidal, and flabort shot), and 1 is not quite explained. Nobody has claimed the shot on Persus, but we've only seen one such extra kill.
I believe our per-cycle nightkiller is the mafia, simply because it would be very strange for it not to be: a mafiateam not killing? Also, there is no sign that failed Monster Withins were used (our scum wasn't getting new third party reads overnight, the cyclic nightkilling was consistent...) and Monster Within is a risky kill.
doll continued to visit the forum after the disinterest post. I recall online periods in the immediate days, and the last time doll was online was the 27th. Based on this and hector's claim, doll took the two shots he intended. They were redirected to Persus13, most likely, as the abductkill seems to be a specific action. Persus13's death was most likely the result of doll's shot.
TolyK is almost certainly not mafia. That said, I'm not sure if he is town or a survivor (specifically a survivor).
Why possibly survivor? His disinterest (particularly in thread) in scumhunting and focus on Everyone Wins is part of it. More important, though, is his willingness to be the last unconverted player in his plan.
Why not mafia? Beyond Fallacy's assault, there's a major reason.
TolyK seems utterly sincere about wanting everyone to win. Few people would carefully plan it out if they didn't want to try it. His plan, though, required a mafioso's cooperation. Before he introduced his plan in the quicktopic, TolyK tried to recruit me:
Oooh. I feel something...
Jack, please do tell if you're Mafia. If you are, I'm 90% sure I can join you guys and kill everyone off/have them join too, so everyone but dead town wins. If not, then it'll be a lot harder to do the cooperation part. 
This is not something I expect the scum to say, to say the least.
Tiruin is tres townie. Building on my prior read (sans the part where I read too much into her cheering statement), that role swap was an impulsive, unplanned major action of the sort I doubt I would see from damaged scum. TolyK and Lengrag backed up claims about her former role.
flabort played a key role in the death of 4maskwolf and has been a target of the scum since day 1. Somehow, I doubt he's part of the scumteam.
Persus13:
Claims to have another shot of a self-revive.
D1:
*Early
FoS on TBF, taking him on for both non-productiveness/disinterest and for playing consistently with his scum meta. FoS is coupled with a vote for flabort for much less and gut. Soon explained to be
pressure distribution: TBF had two votes on him already.
*
Frustration with TBF-Pozzai interaction discouraged activity. Feels pretty real.
*Headed initial charge on flabort, but sparred with TBF throughout the day.
*
Fallacy abruptly became lynch-acceptable with no prior non-RVS interaction. At this point, Doll has placed FoU in the kill/lynch intent list, but has not declared the order of actions.
*
Reasonable Fallacy vote, but with support for the flabort lynch. Reasons for voting Fallacy are solid, but not particularly original. Doll, at this point, has declared intent to kill FoU.
*Last D1 post of significance:
skepticism of flabort.D2: Died and revived overnight. Was busy (vacation), but got a vote in. Took jab at flabort, but voted
Fallacy as a continuation of D1. A townish day.
D3: 4mask vote.
D4: Revealed he hit TDS with a beer can.
A strange D1 (a Fallacy vote detached from the rest of his daygame, with more focus on flabort) mitigated somewhat by good votes D2 and D3. Not the best activity record. However, Persus appears to have been where doll's kill was redirected.
hector13:
Claims no self-revive.
D1:
*
Fallacy vote for the ridiculous readlist, noting oddity of Lenglon being placed below 4mask for activity.
*
Critical of doll's town read on 4mask.*Hostility with TBF for non-answers and general uselessness, but some of that hostility is part of the natural state of humanity. I'm pretty sure Hobbes mentioned something about it.
*
This screams real frustration with TBF.D2:
*
Early suspicion of flabort, but...
*Got caught up in a bizarre thing with Lengrag for much of the day.
Self-awareness got him out of it.
*Continued jabs at Fallacy and TBF.
Stated intent to vote Fallacy before end of day, but didn't get around to it.
D3:
*Died and revived N2.
*
Suspicious of 4mask. Did not vote for him, though. Content collapsed pretty quickly. No vote by end of day.
*As day was ending,
suspected flabort a bit for the Monster Within ability claim. Approximately an hour later, Wuba undermined hector's suspicion. I get the strong impression that hector was not aware of the reality of Monster Within.
Today: more self-awareness. Jumpy voting.
hector13's scumhunt frustrations feel real, his behaviour towards the scumteam has been quite antagonistic (it would be an awful lot of distancing), and that last D3 post makes him look very unaware of 4mask's abilities. Also, there's the death/revive. His lack of votes days 2 and 3 is alarming, though.
Overall, hector13 is the towniest-feeling of the
Tea:
Claims to have a self-revive.
D1:
*
Earliest vote on Fallacy. Reason: oddly long-term thinking.
*
Noted scumminess from TBF. Requested answers
later.
*
Voted flabort before doll's order to vote flabort. Apparent reason:
gut, plus his reads seemed shallow.*This is a big move: Near the end of the day, after flabort's depression post,
Tea accepted health reasons as the primary cause of flabort's disengagement, which would seem to undermine much of the reason for her vote. Vote remained: "Currently feeling like a good way to proceed is to confirm flabort's claim and have that to work from." FoU was raised as an acceptable alternative. Odd path for town: get information by likely generating no flip.
D2: Had no vote, because Lengrag.
*
"Starting to wonder if Fallacy is a lyncher/assassin tbh." Favoured lynch still. Third party does not seem to have been the primary read, but a possibility.
*
Asked about TBF's meta.
*
Declining townread on 4mask.D3:
*After a mistake-spurred
vote on TDS, Tea
voted TBF, identified as an easy Fallacy partner.
*
Called the scumteam as so far known.*
Identified 4mask as top suspect, with hammer as cause to not vote.
*Vote sat on TBF, who was scum careening towards modkill.
D4:
*No actual scumreads. Voted for me as least townish, but not a scumread.
There are parts of Tea's post history that look good. Consistency in fighting the scumteam, in particular. However, there are problems. The D1 flabort vote, and in particular its end-of-day handling (lost much of its base, but it was kept for testing flabort's revive claim), comes off as less than legitimate: why hold that vote? The D3 vote sat on non-playing scum careening towards a modkill, although the vote was held in part to avoid a hammer. I also can't shake the feeling that I was buddied a bit (see questions below).
For Tea to be part of the scumteam, there would have to be a good bit of bussing. That is true of most everyone now, though. However, with the possible exception of the early D1 Fallacy push, Tea's bussing would be very safe, for lack of a better term. Votes were on/intended to be on those already on the path to death, whether by strong consensus, unlucky night results, or modkill levels of inactivity. Relatively low-risk to the team.
This was a bit of a tough and long decision, but based on behaviour and on the kill record, I vote
Tea.
I agree with most of [Jack's] analysis in the post this quote is from BTW.
Tea: Why did you feel the need to tell me this? The "BTW" underlines how small a connection this had to the rest of the post. What was this sentence meant to add?
I very much agree with the second half of Jack's recent post but have been having trouble articulating it.
Also, why did you feel the need to say this? It doesn't seem to add much to your statement (although more than the last quote), particularly since you gave your thoughts on handling millers a couple sentences later.
Anyway, the body snatching kill thing happened N1, not on N2, and then on N3. Could be a Balance influenced thing, maybe just coincidence.
Hector13: Being aware of why there was no successful kill N2, why did you say this?
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