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[Lenglon]

When there's only one person available to scumhunt, mafia gets dull real fast. Im here whenever people are ready to resume the game ill be here. till then ill spend my time elsewhere.

[origamiscienceguy]

wednesday I'll make reads of people, and discuss.

[hector13]

A'right, sooooo...

I shouod be able to get a post in Tuesday evening.

TBF obvscum

[TheDarkStar]

Everyone stops talking from sheer exhaustion. Hapah appears to have passed out.

You take a brief break to eat some food and then resume discussion.


Hapah(1): TheBiggerFish
Gentlefish:
Doubloon-Seven hector13:
TheBiggerFish(1): hector13
roo:
4maskwolf origamiscienceguy(1): Lenglon
webadict Lenglon(1): origamiscienceguy

Not voting(2): Gentlefish, Hapah, roo


The day has been extended to 2pm forum time on Friday, May 19.


Hapah is still up for replacement.

[origamiscienceguy]

Working on reads now. I'll make a new post for each person.

[origamiscienceguy]

Starting with people who have played the entire game up until this point:

Hepah:
Played before, but not in a long time. I have to commend his responces to RVS questions, as there is lots of thoguht put into them. He also calls out TBF for his bullshit, this could be scum going for an easy kill (which TBF and roo are). Not nearly as active as other players, but rather he seems to prefer big walls of text instead. That is not a tell to me either way. His walls of text have good content, and he calls others out on their bullshit, but seems rather leniant towards TBF and roo while going for Johia (an actual noobie) even though roo and TBF have been doing much worse things on several more occasions.

Have to go work for twenty minutes. Finish the rest later.

[Lenglon]

Unvote - he's posting content.

[origamiscienceguy]

It's a miracle, is it not?

Just to let you know, I am a lifeguard, and I have 20 minutes on-stand, and 20 minutes in the office. So I'll post 20 minutes of content, then disappear for 20 minutes.

Continuing with Hepah:
Noticed a discrepency here:

In the end it looks like this game is a repeat of every game I played so far: get indoctrinated into the bay12 playstyle or die, Lynch inactive player, scum kill active player.

I don't think D1 lynches on inactives are bad, given the alternative.

when earlier, he said this:

Regarding the RVS question above, it ties into the "why". I've never heard a good reason or explanation on how someone could divine something about my alignment based on whether I prefer baked or mashed potatoes. In my eyes, someone asking that type of question generally means one of three things:

1.) Lazy Townie. If there's no way they can care about your response, they had no reason to ask the question besides wanting to look active.
2.) Lazy Scum. When you already know who isn't scum, you are just kinda going through the motions if you want to take it easy (good scum may try to suss out roles or behavior patterns).
3.) Total newbie. They just don't know any better or how to scumhunt (though truth be told I barely know how to on Day 1 as well).

Happily, the response to 1 and 2 is the same: stick their neck in a noose until they convince you it doesn't belong there. Either you get a lazy townie engaged (win), or you lynch some scum (win), or you lynch a lazy townie (unfortunate, but I'd lynch lazy town over active town anyway). And for the newbies, well...you help them as best you can, but this is Mafia and you're gonna kill innocent folk sometimes.

Earlier, he said day 1 lynches on inactives was "unfortunate", while later, he said that is was "not a bad thing" This could be a slip, or just him reajusting to the meta, and molding his own policies towards inactives as the game goes on. I personally believe it to be the later.

Anyways, he tells doll that he doesn't like extentions when the extra time wouldn't be used, but then votes to extend again. I don't blame him, because day one was still a clusterfuck by that point.
I would like to draw attention to the interesting dynamic between Hepah and roo. Roo opens the game voting Hepah, then moves it. Before putting it back on again. roo then puts some interesting accusations on Hepah, which Hepah seems to agree with. Also, Hepah seemed to prefer to pick on TBF rather than roo, even though both were doing similar things.

GTG

[origamiscienceguy]

Not much happens with Hepah after that point. My final verdict on him, I am suspicious of a roo/Hepah scumteam, with roo targeting him early without reason to avoid the scumtell of never interacting with people. Roo then made up reasons after the fact. And dispite the fact that roo was voting for Hepah, and TBF not, Hepah attacked TBF more than roo. As an indivudual, I don't find his posts particularly scummy, but also not particularly towny. However, his interaction with roo moves him slightly down on the slider, although I think it would be much more valuable to lynch roo rather than Hepah at this point. I'll get back to that when I do my analysis and read of roo.

Next up, Gentlefish (because I do not want to do TBF or roo unless I have to  )

Right off the bat, Gentlefish admit's he's lazy/busy (or claims to be busy when he's really just lazy.) As Hepah pointed out, lazy people could easily be scum who don't care about scumhunting, since they already know who town and scum are. Or they could be useless townies. We'll see how he develops. Overall, he has a really crap RVS. Not contributing anything to the discussion other than answering questions posed at him, and telling TBF and roo off. He never really pressures people, either asks them to elaborate, or rebukes them. Not really any discussion-inducing content. If I were to describe him, I'd almost say he is pretending to be an IC, but never playing the game like a real player (at least to the part of the game I got to, maybe he changes later).

GTG

[origamiscienceguy]

Continuing with Gentlefish

Similarly to Hepah, somewhat inactive, and prefers big walls rather than small individual posts. That can be put down to his "busy" schedule. He continues to contribute basically nothing other than answering questions, and defending his inactivity. Almost a perfect example of activelurking. Seriously, can anybody go back through his older posts with me and see the activelurk? or is it just me?

[origamiscienceguy]

After that point... Nothing. Gentlefish spent the eintire first 2/3 of day one activelurking, then the rest of day one and the entirety of day two so far gone. Worth a vote, I'd say. Waayyyy more scummy than Hepah, so much so that I think I'll vote you now, even though I suspect that either roo or TBF will be more deserving once I start to inmvestigate them.
Gentlefish

[origamiscienceguy]

Lenglon, Hector,

Do you agree with what I've got so far, or am I batshit crazy? (just trying to induce discussion into this game again.)

[hector13]

G'fish is one of the folks I'm willing to vote, certainly.

Again, one of the people who were having cases against them for inactivity/active-lurking. I'd like something a bit more concrete than that before being willing to vote for them.

[hector13]

Also not sure why you're questioning Lenglon and myself, we have content available for people to get a read on us. Why did you not push G'fish to get something else, or TBF/roo to comment?

[origamiscienceguy]

Because you two have literally been the only ones saying anything thus far in day 2. Highest chance to start a discussion.