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[PTTG??]

You sure you want to imply that certain bloodlines of people are the divine products of special creation, and all other people are somehow less?

More generally, if you're going to stretch the text that far, it starts to snap. If there was a divine truth in the bible, why is it not preserved clearly and specifically? What deity would intervene to send a message, but then fail to ensure that message was transmitted? Regardless of -- or perhaps especially if -- it's about the very nature of human existence?

[Doomblade187]

Ahem, Railgun thread.

[Magistrum]

What deity would intervene to send a message, but then fail to ensure that message was transmitted? Regardless of -- or perhaps especially if -- it's about the very nature of human existence?

Hmmmm... Sithrak, of course.

[smjjames]

Just one of the innumerable inconsistencies and contradictions in the Bible. (and yeah, totally tangent into the spirituality and railgun thread)

More Syria developments (don't we have a MidEast thread somewhere? Though this bit is directly AmeriPol linked anyway): Trump is now ordering most of the ~1,000 troops are being withdrawn (using a plan made back in Feb) primarily to avoid getting caught in the crossfire of opposing armies since the Turks seem to intend to expand further south than thought and the Kurds are trying to get the Russians and the Syrian government to help attack Turkey.

Various sources:

https://www.cnn.com/2019/10/13/politics/us-troops-syria-turkey/index.html
https://www.axios.com/us-forces-withdrawal-syria-turkish-attack-052a464c-0535-4af1-b25a-704b213afd41.html
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2019/oct/13/trump-us-troops-northern-syria-turkish-assault-kurds
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-50034802

Trump is running the risk of possibly needing to come back into Syria some way or other in the future, but given that Syria is starting to become almost unrecognizable compared to when the civil war started, it'd probably be an even worse clusterbleep the next time around that we have to go back in. Trump even stated that if ISIS resurges, he's willing to go right back in. Plus, it's not likely that the Kurds will ally with us again.

You sure you want to imply that certain bloodlines of people are the divine products of special creation, and all other people are somehow less?

More generally, if you're going to stretch the text that far, it starts to snap. If there was a divine truth in the bible, why is it not preserved clearly and specifically? What deity would intervene to send a message, but then fail to ensure that message was transmitted? Regardless of -- or perhaps especially if -- it's about the very nature of human existence?

Because there is no deity? /thread own

Seriously though, needs to be tangented into the religion thread.

[Hanslanda]

*enters Ameripol*
*finds a well reasoned and calm discussion about religion*
*backs away slowly*

[Kagus]

*enters Ameripol*
*finds a well reasoned and calm discussion about religion*
*backs away slowly*

Leave, boy. Leave while you still can.

[Max™]

What deity would intervene to send a message, but then fail to ensure that message was transmitted? Regardless of -- or perhaps especially if -- it's about the very nature of human existence?

Hmmmm... Sithrak, of course.

Sithrak hates even if you don't believe in him or do anything wrong!

I don't know about the npc trumpetfuckers memes, I haven't touched social media in years, I was just the type that would sit and look for weird edges in a game and spend hours running into them until I end up fused partway with the wall and start climbing up through it, rather than go on a railroaded questline I wasn't yet interested in.

As for homoanything in the bible, I recall there being weirdness with the greek translations not distinguishing between prostitutes and homosexuals linguistically unless you were very careful when translating and used appropriate context cues?

[Frumple]

Trump even stated that if ISIS resurges, he's willing to go right back in. Plus, it's not likely that the Kurds will ally with us again.

Note that as a direct result of what's been happening, hundreds of isis captives have already escaped captivity. Kurds have pretty clearly stated they're going to do fuck all about it, particularly while they're busy trying to fend off a genocide attempt, too.

Turkey's already been caught fairly cheerfully committing various war crimes as well, apparently. Journalists murdered, at least one peace advocate dragged out and shot by turkish forces, it's off to a hell of a start. US's done shit the bed real hard, again.

[smjjames]

Trump even stated that if ISIS resurges, he's willing to go right back in. Plus, it's not likely that the Kurds will ally with us again.

Note that as a direct result of what's been happening, hundreds of isis captives have already escaped captivity. Kurds have pretty clearly stated they're going to do fuck all about it, particularly while they're busy trying to fend off a genocide attempt, too.

Turkey's already been caught fairly cheerfully committing various war crimes as well, apparently. Journalists murdered, at least one peace advocate dragged out and shot by turkish forces, it's off to a hell of a start. US's done shit the bed real hard, again.

I'd be surprised if this doesn't become an object lesson in the history books on how not to do things.

There's also the fact that theres all those displaced people which are going to have to go somewhere (and are likely not going to Turkey), Turkey has been threatening to unleash immigration crisis 2.0 on Europe, and I've read in a few places that there is concern that the conflict could spill into Iraq.

[Bumber]

US's done shit the bed real hard, again.

Well, at least it was somebody else's bed. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[Lord Shonus]

Just one of the innumerable inconsistencies and contradictions in the Bible. (and yeah, totally tangent into the spirituality and railgun thread)

More Syria developments (don't we have a MidEast thread somewhere? Though this bit is directly AmeriPol linked anyway): Trump is now ordering most of the ~1,000 troops are being withdrawn (using a plan made back in Feb) primarily to avoid getting caught in the crossfire of opposing armies since the Turks seem to intend to expand further south than thought and the Kurds are trying to get the Russians and the Syrian government to help attack Turkey.

Various sources:

https://www.cnn.com/2019/10/13/politics/us-troops-syria-turkey/index.html
https://www.axios.com/us-forces-withdrawal-syria-turkish-attack-052a464c-0535-4af1-b25a-704b213afd41.html
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2019/oct/13/trump-us-troops-northern-syria-turkish-assault-kurds
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-50034802

Trump is running the risk of possibly needing to come back into Syria some way or other in the future, but given that Syria is starting to become almost unrecognizable compared to when the civil war started, it'd probably be an even worse clusterbleep the next time around that we have to go back in. Trump even stated that if ISIS resurges, he's willing to go right back in. Plus, it's not likely that the Kurds will ally with us again.

The Kurds are now openly inviting Russia in to deal with the consequences of Lord Cheeto's stupidity. There's also indications that US troops were practically begging for permission to open fire on the Turks. What a shitshow.

[scourge728]

Also, why is Cain paranoid of being murdered out there, IF NOBODY LIVES THERE?!

Well, animals are a thing, and many have big teeth and claws

[Eschar]

Also, why is Cain paranoid of being murdered out there, IF NOBODY LIVES THERE?!

Well, animals are a thing, and many have big teeth and claws

IIRC, Cain specifically mentioned people.

Also: PAGING DUNAMISDEOS

[smjjames]

BULLDOZING!! ----> (lol @me with sillyness)

Also, why is Cain paranoid of being murdered out there, IF NOBODY LIVES THERE?!

Well, animals are a thing, and many have big teeth and claws

Also, why is Cain paranoid of being murdered out there, IF NOBODY LIVES THERE?!

Well, animals are a thing, and many have big teeth and claws

IIRC, Cain specifically mentioned people.

Also: PAGING DUNAMISDEOS

[Reelya]

The Syrian Army / Kurdish thing is definitely on. This by itself would be a game-changer in regional politics. The Kurd's primary goal has always been an autonomous region, not overthrowing Damascus or Assad, so if the Syrian government agrees for them to have their region then they can be an effective alliance.

They're also talking about using the combined troops to kick pro-Turkish militias out of the border region, from areas Turkey already dominated from before this current situation. It would be highly ironic if this whole shitshow from Trump ends up being the event that causes the Syrian civil war to end because two of the strongest factions needed to join together for survival against foreign incursion.