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Re: AmeriPol thread
« Reply #32655 on: October 06, 2019, 11:36:15 pm »

Well, dissociative fugue is a thing associated with intensely stressful life circumstances...  But Trump has faced such existential crises before.

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« Reply #32656 on: October 07, 2019, 08:05:35 am »

Uh. Welp. Fuck the kurds, I guess? Looks like that's our new (old) foreign policy.
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« Reply #32657 on: October 07, 2019, 08:23:36 am »

Uh. Welp. Fuck the kurds, I guess? Looks like that's our new (old) foreign policy.
What happened this time? :(
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« Reply #32658 on: October 07, 2019, 08:34:51 am »

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2019/oct/07/us-to-let-turkish-forces-move-into-syria-abandoning-kurdish-allies

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The White House has given the green light to a Turkish offensive into northern Syria, moving US forces out of the area in an abrupt foreign policy change that will in effect abandon Washington’s longtime military partners, the Kurds.

Basically America has run away and said "see ya" to long-time allies, after a phone call from Erdogan, the guy who wants to kill said allies.

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« Reply #32659 on: October 07, 2019, 09:46:38 am »

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2019/oct/07/us-to-let-turkish-forces-move-into-syria-abandoning-kurdish-allies

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The White House has given the green light to a Turkish offensive into northern Syria, moving US forces out of the area in an abrupt foreign policy change that will in effect abandon Washington’s longtime military partners, the Kurds.

Basically America has run away and said "see ya" to long-time allies, after a phone call from Erdogan, the guy who wants to kill said allies.
Sounds like there's bipartisan support for a resolution undoing the damage, but given the state of Congress, that may come far too late.
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Re: AmeriPol thread
« Reply #32660 on: October 07, 2019, 10:03:31 am »

America casually betraying allies at a whim? Say it ain't so!
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« Reply #32661 on: October 07, 2019, 12:11:57 pm »

America casually betraying allies at a whim? Say it ain't so!
It's more likely than you think!



I do hope the Kurds manage to repel the Turks.
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« Reply #32662 on: October 07, 2019, 12:18:57 pm »

America casually betraying allies at a whim? Say it ain't so!
It's more likely than you think!



I do hope the Kurds manage to repel the Turks.
They have a good track record, but I fear they're going to lose too many people to stay cohesive.

Which is fine by Turkey, of course.
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« Reply #32663 on: October 07, 2019, 02:36:49 pm »

This is sad news, because the Rojavans seem quite badass.

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« Reply #32664 on: October 07, 2019, 03:07:37 pm »

Apparently (according to my Swedish evening news that I just watched) Erdogan wants to resettle Syrian refugees in the area.

Which is good, right? Except that the Syrians he wants to resettle there is mainly Sunni Arabs from otherwhere in Syria -- which would greatly shift the demographics not against the Kurds, but also the various religious minorities in the area.
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« Reply #32665 on: October 07, 2019, 04:17:34 pm »

Uh. Welp. Fuck the kurds, I guess? Looks like that's our new (old) foreign policy.

Not the first time unfortunately, we've tended to shaft them more often than not, I believe.

Anyways, he's getting a hell of a lot of pushback for what is a kneejerk reaction to a complicated situation that requires careful thought. There's no 'Alexander the Great splits the Gordian knot in two with a sword' solution for this one.

Maybe a more appropriate analogy would be a Gordian knot connected to several rube goldberg machines that are both independent and react to each other, with some cords leading to disaster and some not, cutting all of them at once would guarantee disaster. Then again, maybe a Gordian knot+ my addition is a poor analogy for the whole Syria situation?
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« Reply #32667 on: October 07, 2019, 04:43:22 pm »

Maybe a more appropriate analogy would be a Gordian knot connected to several rube goldberg machines that are both independent and react to each other, with some cords leading to disaster and some not, cutting all of them at once would guarantee disaster. Then again, maybe a Gordian knot+ my addition is a poor analogy for the whole Syria situation?
You're tying yourself in knots with that analogy...
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« Reply #32668 on: October 07, 2019, 04:46:27 pm »

Analogies are good. Especially when they explain the complexities of situations
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« Reply #32669 on: October 07, 2019, 05:27:57 pm »

Even better when they let you spin up another yarn of puns.
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