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[Baffler]

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These are truly strange times we live in.

[redwallzyl]

So today is the day of the march for science. Wonder how big this is going to be. Their are a ton of people gathered in my city.

[Dunamisdeos]

That's a lot of people speechcrafting. Watch out for rogue Cthulus.

[misko27]

Well since this thread is quiet, it may be worth mentioning this article: How Trump Blew Up the Conservative Media.

It's interesting. Trump seemed like the second coming of the right-wing media, and yet they're all in internal chaos. WSJ is in civil war (a pro-trump editor-in-chief demanding the paper stay neutral regarding Trump, and reporters and writers who disagree vehemently), Fox News lost their founder and a number of others (including, most recently Bill O'Reilly, which I'm surprised no one mentioned) to internal scandal, and Breitbart, better suited to attacking things than defending them or creating policy, faces the prospect of having to hold Trump to his nationalist positions. Conservative media finds itself, for once, out of step with its audience; having to support Trump even when he deviates from ideological orthodoxy (and also ethical orthodoxy, but they haven't shown any reluctance to that in the past).

Despite their friendship, Ailes found himself unable to control Trump during the campaign, according to one Fox News host. As the candidate would, say, berate prime-time host Kelly as a “bimbo,” Ailes would “tell him, ‘Hey, Donald, settle the fuck down,’” the host told me. Ailes was known as a control freak who kept the lid on problems at Fox by instilling fear in his subordinates, but Trump wasn’t a subordinate and couldn’t be kept in line. Ailes vented privately to at least one associate, telling him that Trump was crazy. (Susan Estrich, Ailes’ attorney, denied this.) But Ailes also worried—from a business perspective—that tilting the network against Trump was just as crazy. And he “became legitimately afraid Trump would start his own network” if he lost the race, says another on-air personality.

[Loud Whispers]

Trump was the second coming of the alternative media, not right-wing media

For example, water filter merchant network has expanded dramatically

[Playergamer]

Trump was the second coming of the alternative media, not right-wing media

For example, water filter merchant network has expanded dramatically

It's very offensive the way people focus on his water filter business as a way to demean him.

He also sells bulletproof vests.

[redwallzyl]

http://www.japantimes.co.jp/news/2017/04/22/asia-pacific/politics-diplomacy-asia-pacific/south-koreans-outraged-trump-says-xi-told-peninsula-part-china/#.WPvx3ca1tPZ

LOL

[Puzzlemaker]

Best way I heard it put is:  Saying Korea was once part of china is like saying southern england was once part of italy.

[Loud Whispers]

Tbh no on in England would give a shit
It's more like saying Ukraine was once a part of Russia

[Neonivek]

Best way I heard it put is:  Saying Korea was once part of china is like saying southern england was once part of italy.

Well... I am not sure that is EXACTLY accurate... I... think China was still technically China when it owned Korea. (well ok... it was named something else entirely...)

While Italy was... well... Not Italy at all.

[Loud Whispers]

Three Kingdoms China best China

3 China for the price of 1 Heaven's mandate

[smjjames]

Well, Korea WAS under Yuan (Mongol) rule as a vassal state and the Joseon right after that was a tributary state as well. So, Korea was never actually a part of China at any point.

It's as much a part of China as Ireland is a part of the UK. Meaning Ireland was kind of a vassal state of the UK for a while, but was never a part of Britian, if you will.

Best way I heard it put is:  Saying Korea was once part of china is like saying southern england was once part of italy.

Well... I am not sure that is EXACTLY accurate... I... think China was still technically China when it owned Korea. (well ok... it was named something else entirely...)

You mean when it was under Mongol rule?

[Starver]

Ireland was never part of Great Britain, always part of the British Isles, and for a large amount of time completely part of the United Kingdom (regardless of some local sensibilities), though now only part of it is (again, despite some local opinions), with the rest having phased out of the UK by degrees in the interim.

Wales has been more a vassal state of England, and largely remains so in legal terms.

[MrRoboto75]

China doesn't really believe in several countries.

[Neonivek]

You mean when it was under Mongol rule?

Well... that alone is a complicated history.