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[origamiscienceguy]

Also, the people that voted for him are thus far quite impressed with his performance. Myself included.

[Sheb]

Also, the people that voted for him are thus far quite impressed with his performance. Myself included.

Really? Like, what achievments do you like?

[Frumple]

I've seen folks point to the southwest border data, mostly. It's massively overselling what trump is managing on the immigration enforcement front, but it definitely is a notable change.

The fact that Trump has conflicts of interests WAY up the wazoo isn't surprising. What seems surprising is more people aren't making a fuss over this one.

Conflicts of interest, yes, but this isn't conflict of interest. It's looking entirely like a straight up bald faced emoluments clause violation, never mind the general corruption it signals; money coming from a foreign business or power to the president's personal coffers over a deal he personally oversaw. It's definitely surprising no one seems to have noticed, though, yeah.

[origamiscienceguy]

Also, the people that voted for him are thus far quite impressed with his performance. Myself included.

Really? Like, what achievments do you like?

Neil Gorsuch

Canceling Nasa's Asteroid redirect project (it sounds cool, but if you think about it, it's really stupid)

Decreasing the dept by 100 billion

The misslie strike on Syria

Approving Keystone pipeline

[smjjames]

Um, the debt is like 20 trillion, 100 billion is a drop in the bucket. If he decreased the debt by a trillion or more, THEN I might be impressed.

[Sheb]

Neil Gorsuch

Canceling Nasa's Asteroid redirect project (it sounds cool, but if you think about it, it's really stupid)

Decreasing the dept by 100 billion

The misslie strike on Syria

Approving Keystone pipeline

Well, Neil Gorsuch is a decent choice I guess, although it doesn't seem like an achievment and more like the normal consequence of being Pres.  What department (or is it debt) are you talking about?

[origamiscienceguy]

Would you rather the debt had continued to rise?

[smjjames]

Neil Gorsuch

Canceling Nasa's Asteroid redirect project (it sounds cool, but if you think about it, it's really stupid)

Decreasing the dept by 100 billion

The misslie strike on Syria

Approving Keystone pipeline

Well, Neil Gorsuch is a decent choice I guess, although it doesn't seem like an achievment and more like the normal consequence of being Pres.  What department (or is it debt) are you talking about?

That was the SCOTUS (Supreme Court of the US) nominee to replace Scalia who died last year.

Would you rather the debt had continued to rise?

Of course not, no. As for the 100 Bil or so, you're talking about the health care bill that Republicans are attempting to work on, right? You do realize that thing breaks all kinds of things that he promised?

[Starver]

Would you rather the debt had continued to rise?

The debt can only be estimated, this early, and depends primarily upon the deficit and other factors.  And debt as a proportion of GDP is a better aim (if GDP goes down in order to lower the debt then it may not help, and raising the debt to fuel a rise in GDP is not a bad thing...).

But you pick your 'experts' and takes your opinions, I suppose...

(And if it turns out we can't spot/stop the asteroid with our name on it, I'd call cancelling that NASA project a false economy...)

[TheDarkStar]

I can see Gorsuch, action in Syria, and the Keystone pipeline (even if I strongly oppose to the Keystone pipeline, Gorsuch isn't a terrible pick and airstrikes in Syria may have been warranted), but doing stuff with the debt isn't part of what the president does. Presidents do have a lot of influence on where money goes, but ultimately it's Congress that decides things like taxes/massive health care acts of various kinds.

[smjjames]

To Liberals, Gorsuch is a terrible pick, but he really just maintains a rough status quo where it was when Scalia was there. The REAL fight is going to be the next opening, IMO.

[Sheb]

So it was the debt. Seems a bit premature to cite it as a Trump achievement when it occured before he got anything done. And of course if he ever gets his budget passed the debt will skyrocket.

[origamiscienceguy]

To Liberals, Gorsuch is a terrible pick, but he really just maintains a rough status quo where it was when Scalia was there. The REAL fight is going to be the next opening, IMO.

That's why I specified "for the people who voted for him"

[smjjames]

So it was the debt. Seems a bit premature to cite it as a Trump achievement when it occured before he got anything done. And of course if he ever gets his budget passed the debt will skyrocket.

The budget proposed by the President is just that, a proposal, nothing more. Congress has already said that it's dead in the water and lots of Republicans are opposed to various parts of it. As TheDarkStar said, Congress has the power of the purse, not the President.

To Liberals, Gorsuch is a terrible pick, but he really just maintains a rough status quo where it was when Scalia was there. The REAL fight is going to be the next opening, IMO.

That's why I specified "for the people who voted for him"

That was at TheDarkStar though.

[Pwnzerfaust]

Cis

Why not just say "normal"?

That implies that other people are abnormal. In what way are people who are not cis gendered not normal? Because they are less common?

Yes.

nor·mal
ˈnôrməl
adjective
1.
conforming to a standard; usual, typical, or expected.