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[Frumple]

I'unno, business connections, ties to the russian mafia, however much blackmail accumulated while his campaign was jonesing for a reacharound on the subject of the clinton campaign, (hopefully?) unrequited lust for putin's embrace, generalized jackassery, pick however many you care to. Should be something in those general regions that'll end up being part of the what.

[RedKing]

Hookers with empty bladders?

[SalmonGod]

Had to share this...

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[martinuzz]

Students call for massive schoolkid / student protests for more gun control. They want students/schololkids to interrupt their classes for 17 minutes on the 14th of march, and want to organize a huge protest march on the 24th of march in Washington.
Kid gives a pretty darn good speech there:
https://youtu.be/ZxD3o-9H1lY

[Sheb]

I found this chart kinda neat.

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[Starver]

(2000x4526? That's definitely overkill.  Could have been readable (more readable, no need to download to 'pinch zoom out') at 500x1132ish, based on the smallest print being ~6 pixels of stroke-width so a sensible antialiasing would allow quarter-width/sixteenth area. Probably designed for an HD projected presentation.)

[Max™]

Also it's neat in the sense of "fuck we're stupid and that's depressing" though the bit about how many of those deaths are attributable to suicide is eye-opening, like wtf Alaska?

[redwallzyl]

Also it's neat in the sense of "fuck we're stupid and that's depressing" though the bit about how many of those deaths are attributable to suicide is eye-opening, like wtf Alaska?

Its dark, cold and, depressing. That's why.

[sluissa]

Also it's neat in the sense of "fuck we're stupid and that's depressing" though the bit about how many of those deaths are attributable to suicide is eye-opening, like wtf Alaska?

Dark winter months, a poor economy with expensive imports, sparse population prone to isolation(especially in the dark winter months) and a general lack of services including health and mental wellness programs leads to stuff like this.

On that note, I do think it's a little unfair to combine suicide gun use in the same chart as other gun violence though.

It's a problem, for sure, but it's a very different problem than interpersonal violence.

[MorleyDev]

It is tied to the number of people who die due to ease of access to the weaponry though, and it's arguably disingenuous to exclude it since suicide-by-firearm is a big problem in America.

The gun control argument isn't just about stopping murders but the whole package, and leaving out suicide and just focusing on violence in many ways misses the point of gun control.

You guys have much higher suicide rates, and a big factor in that is simply that guns make suicide very, very easy. Hanging yourself or throwing yourself from a high place is a lot harder than pointing and clicking. They make the worst case scenario for a lot of things much more likely, violence and theft is more likely to result in death, depression is more likely to result in a suicide. I'm not sure you can just separate them like that and not lose the big picture.

[scriver]

It's a problem, for sure, but it's a very different problem than interpersonal violence.

And this is especially true in the context of a mass shooting.

[Sheb]

It's a problem, for sure, but it's a very different problem than interpersonal violence.

Yeah, but then they also have commonalities that are interesting. For exemple, I'm fairly certain a waiting period is a great help against suicide by gun by preventing impulse buy.

[redwallzyl]

It's a problem, for sure, but it's a very different problem than interpersonal violence.

Yeah, but then they also have commonalities that are interesting. For exemple, I'm fairly certain a waiting period is a great help against suicide by gun by preventing impulse buy.

Yes, suicide is very impulse thing. And guns are very easy to use and will kill you dead quite easily. Much easier to pull a trigger then stab yourself as well.

[Dunamisdeos]

I think it's a bit inaccurate to tie gun control to suicide in the US. When you're talking about suicide, we have one of the lowest rates out of any nation according to the WHO reports. Japan is probably the most famous example right now, in that they have incredibly strict (and logical) gun control but much, much more suicide.

The idea that we have more suicide by gun just means guns are more available here, and not that we would have less suicides if we had less guns.

[Reelya]

idk about that, one big example was Israel. Back in 2005 they ended the practice of IDF troops taking guns home on weekends, and the suicide rate fell by 40% instantly without them doing anything else.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21034205

Regardless of how USA compares internationally, the suicide rate would fall if there weren't guns to do the deed with. They have studies that show a correlation with gun ownership and suicide:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gun_violence_in_the_United_States#Suicides

A 1992 case-control study in the New England Journal of Medicine showed an association between estimated household firearm ownership and suicide rates, finding that individuals living in a home where firearms are present are more likely to commit suicide than those individuals who do not own firearms, by a factor of 3 or 4.

As for Japan vs USA, you can look at OECD data such as this:
https://www.oecd.org/els/family/CO_4_4_Teenage-Suicide.pdf

See the chart on page 2 of the pdf. Teen suicide was higher in the USA in 2015 than in Japan. It was also higher for the data points of 1990 and 2000. e.g. teen suicide rates for the USA have consistently trended higher than Japan for decades, despite what the media tells you. Japan's teen suicide rate in 2015 was actually lower than the OECD average, while America's was higher than the OECD average.

The thing is that in Japan the media makes much more of teen suicides than the USA does, despite it being no better (and arguably worse) in the USA. The reason for the difference in perception is probably because teen suicide used to be much rarer in Japan, and more common in the USA, e.g. back at the height of the 1990 crack epidemic USA's teen suicide was three times higher than Japan. Now, they're more even so the Japanese are freaking out about it, while the USA is not. The western media just reports Japanese news as a fact without doing much fact-checking. See for example the "Japanese eyeball licking" craze as it was credulously reported in the West (e.g. CBS), which turned out to be a hoax.