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« Reply #15 on: November 29, 2016, 09:47:51 pm »

There were a few good ones and a lot of terrible ones, even in the old days.  Maybe I caught the tumblr flu, but I always found the Montauk protocol one unpleasant and stupid.  It's basically several pages of the author saying "no, i'm telling you it's REALLY REALLY BAD.  like seriously it's SOOOO BAAAAD, you have no idea, trust me, i can't tell you, but i can say it's SO BAD YOU GUYS SERIOUSLY"

Able is stupid as hell.  682 is also really dumb, but it sort of gets a pass as an intentional "sorry, we already have a big scary monster" instant cutoff for anyone doing the same obvious thing, but not everyone got the joke and now it's gone too far.

The best ones don't try to be scary honestly.  The keter cakes are probably my favorite SCP ever.

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« Reply #16 on: November 29, 2016, 10:02:50 pm »

I don't remember the number, but there's specifically a skip that does that and has two articles: one redacted as per normal, and one totally uncensored.
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« Reply #17 on: November 29, 2016, 10:23:58 pm »

eh, the jailers can go snuff it, The Serpents Hand is where the real fun it.
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« Reply #18 on: November 29, 2016, 10:55:49 pm »

The best ones don't try to be scary honestly.  The keter cakes are probably my favorite SCP ever.
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The ones I enjoy most are the ones that are either just plain weird or a subtle sort of horror. Most of it is either shit or wank or both.
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« Reply #19 on: November 30, 2016, 12:15:50 am »

interesting thought not covered by the keiter cakes scp...

destruction of the cake results in instant spontaneous creation of another keiter cake at the same location, which likewise exhibit the same qualities of spontaneous matter generation. 

the containment mechanism is inappropriate! those are amazing solid spaceship fuel! lightweight at only 280 cakes. very high specific impulse when burned in a proper way! also doubles as food for crew, and creation of biomass for a colony expedition! inexhaustible!! able to be replicated easily! (does not even need combustion when used in space. the pressure of replicating keitercake inside a sealed canister with an extrusion port would force delicious confection from the nozzel with tremendous force, possibly exceeding energy emitted from normal combustion)

what do those tools use it for? making some poor janitor eat cake every day.

sigh.
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« Reply #20 on: November 30, 2016, 07:08:07 am »

I don't remember the number, but there's specifically a skip that does that and has two articles: one redacted as per normal, and one totally uncensored.
835. 2317 has a similar schtick (NOT 231-7, 2317, although the numbering is intentional).
I always thought the don't blink feces doll thing (hehe) was overrated.
(173) I mean probably but it was the actual first one so it has a special spot.

The top-rated thing on the wiki that isn't 173 is http://www.scp-wiki.net/scp-j, and it is near and dear to my heart as the bane of my existence. There's another one I really like thats's a joke article while I'm on the topic, but it only works if you have a wikidot account.
interesting thought not covered by the keiter cakes scp...

destruction of the cake results in instant spontaneous creation of another keiter cake at the same location, which likewise exhibit the same qualities of spontaneous matter generation. 

the containment mechanism is inappropriate! those are amazing solid spaceship fuel! lightweight at only 280 cakes. very high specific impulse when burned in a proper way! also doubles as food for crew, and creation of biomass for a colony expedition! inexhaustible!! able to be replicated easily! (does not even need combustion when used in space. the pressure of replicating keitercake inside a sealed canister with an extrusion port would force delicious confection from the nozzel with tremendous force, possibly exceeding energy emitted from normal combustion)

what do those tools use it for? making some poor janitor eat cake every day.

sigh.
First: you get no standardization in cake here, so your plans gotta take that into account. Second: what exactly are you doing with the extra cakes produced on this spaceship? It will still produce another cake "nearby" within 24 hours on schedule on a "flat surface" nearby. And three: you realize that every extra cake also replicates forever right? There are 237 according to article. You want to use 280. Let's say you only needed one. One goes in the gas. 24 hours later a cake pops out (we'll assume for your sake that it will actually be in the space ship), and you eat it. 24 hours after that, TWO cakes pop out. Wait what? One cake is the cake in the engine not getting eaten, the other is the replacement for the cake that you ate. Uh-oh. You eat both. 24 hours later there are three. If we scaled this up to your idea: 280 cakes on Day 0 in the engine. 560 Cakes Day 1. 840 cakes Day 2. 1120 cakes Day 3. I hope the crew is hungry.

But while that, alone, is enough to sink your idea, there is a fourth issue that is fatal.
I'm particularly fond of the static tower and the red sea object. There's some good ones in the later hundreds, but they don't spring to mind as immediately, and there's well over a thousand I still haven't pored over.

Yeah, plenty of them aren't super intriguing, but it's pretty easy to crawl the list and enjoy some blood-drinking grass or whatever happens to be on the next page.
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The best ones don't try to be scary honestly.  The keter cakes are probably my favorite SCP ever.
after writing the above i would like to say that the keter cakes are no fucking laughing matter. thems is some spooky shit. also while i'm on the topic of funny food SCPs, 504 was actually my first SCP (tv tropes), and it's probably my favorite still; actually I think my favorite is still probably ronald reagan or the WW1 battlefield or the WW2 goliath mine, but it's definitely my favorite funny article.
I think many of the SCPs would be better if about 90% of the 'redacted' stuff were alternately removed or expanded upon. The 'SECRET TERRIBLE STUFF' gimmick works less the more it's used.
While i think that's true I think the way it's supposed to work is they leave the reader with a decent idea of what it is, but doesn't actually answer it. something like the spooky staircase (also fuck that staircase while we are on the topic) makes it work wonders because they've already been so very, very explicit in what they've given you until that the expungement hits iike a ton of bricks; but not only are you already spooked, but you realize the article also already gave details and hints and implications (and the implications are actually spooky). 231 loses punch as soon as you imagine procedure montauk being bed time stories; it tells you it's bad. spooky staircase implied the final exploration went down there, got a lot further then before, and something happened, and since the expungement comes right after the second-to-last one's spooky ending (instead of before the spooky ending), it kicks you. shit I'm spooking myself just thinking of that fucking staircase.
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« Reply #21 on: November 30, 2016, 01:35:02 pm »

Misko, the size of the containment room is the key, as is the requirement for flat surfaces. We can precisely control where the cake will appear that way.

Say our spaceship is a rotating wheel to produce artificial gravity for the crew, and we decide that all ship surfaces should be lofted for strength reasons. The only flat surface is located inside the central rotating axis of the ship, inline with the vector of acceleration. The constant acceleration of the ship from burning the cake and venting the exhaust will cause there to be very weak inertial force, which will work like weak gravity pushing items down on the spawning plate. All other surfaces on the ship are not flat, and thus not viable spawn targets.  The kind of cake spawned is similar to the cake that was just destroyed.

Also, reread the scp.

Damaged cakes, or cakes not eaten by humans respawn *instantly*, whereas cakes eaten by humans spawn in 24 hours. This means a robotic pick and place machine can just grab the cake and drop it into the engine intake, turn right around and repeat the process over and over. Hell, a simple pushing conveyor would work. Also, the requirement for "nearby" limits the geometrical production, because the ship is zipping around pretty damned fast, and uneaten cake is blasted out behind the ship. As long as rate of introduction to the engine is slower than rate of expulsion from the engine due to combustion or ejection, and sufficient distance from destroyed cake exhaust is achieved, only linear replication will occur, because the distance from the replicating cake exhausted (damaged cakes needing a surface to spawn on) is great enough that the platter is out of range for replication, and there are no other flat surfaces to spawn on in proximity to the ejected/burned cake.

Not addressed by the scp, is what happens to the feces of the humans eating the cake. There is still new mass being added to the earth every 24h.  Miniscule amounts, sure, but still new mass every 24h.  On a space ship intended for a colony mission, this can be of benefit. For the launch price of one cake, several tons of carbon, hydrogen, and oxygen (cake is a carbohydrate) raw material, in a low entropy state just appears on board over the duration of the voyage. The ship launches empty, but has enough biomass on board to start a colony when it arrives at destination. Purposeful damaging of cake, followed by consumption of the damaged cake, will permit the crew to eat said damaged cake (a new cake instantly appears on the platter, so this won't cause issue with the engine), and thus provide said biomass.
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« Reply #22 on: November 30, 2016, 02:37:15 pm »

Here's the issue - every 24 hours, unless the cake is eaten, there is one cake permanently added to the world. It can never be taken away.

How about 2935? Why did the place blow up anyway?

Edit: Ahahah, this is good. It cuts straight from "...bugger." to a hilariously uncaring professionally-toned and Spartan description of how they cut pieces off of the expendable one. "our job is to secure and protect the likes of you" suuuuuure
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« Reply #23 on: November 30, 2016, 03:52:39 pm »

No Doze, EVEN WITH human consumption, the mass equal to one cake magically appears in the world every 24hr. 
Without human consumption, then on earth (where flat surfaces are plentiful), the cake will geometrically replicate every 24hrs.

With human consumption, the mass of the cake is converted to feces, but does not vanish from the world. the world gets heavier every 24hrs. This is NOT a viable long term storage solution. It merely partially mitigates the danger presented by the keiter cake.

When used as spaceship fuel, the scarcity of flat surfaces to spawn on, and the great distances involved, collaborate to deny the keiter cake the prerequisites it needs to enter uncontrolled geometric replication.  The assured continual generation of mass is what ENABLES it to be used as spaceship fuel. :D
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« Reply #24 on: November 30, 2016, 04:04:57 pm »

"In the vicinity" is pretty vague though and sounds like more of an approximation then an actual rule given lack of will to test extreme things.
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« Reply #25 on: November 30, 2016, 04:07:51 pm »

Probably a bad idea to keep it on a spaceship anyway. 

One bad asteroid hit or mechanical malfunction and the human crew dies.  Not so bad at first.  But those cakes keep replicating exponentially until the combined gravitational forces of the cakes start to smoosh each other.

Then they start to count as "damaged" and instantly replicate.  The new cakes are instantly smooshed as well causing more instant cakes.  Suddenly you've got a blackhole expanding at infinite speeds and the universe is destroyed.

Lets leave the Keter Cakes on earth where there are lots of people available to eat them.
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« Reply #26 on: November 30, 2016, 04:12:52 pm »

No, once it crosses the mechanical limits of the flat surface, it will cease being able to replicate, because no surface would be available to spawn on.  It would cease replication long before becoming a black hole.

However, there might be undocumented features of the keiter cake.

What happens when a cake is unable to meet its needs for replication after 24 hours? Does it "store up" replication energy, for when it IS able to satisfy them? (EG, another ship happens along the same path, and gets 'near enough' to an ejected cake, and suddenly, millions of cakes appear in the engine bay.)

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« Reply #27 on: November 30, 2016, 04:18:21 pm »

I mean if a flat surface was required, then it wouldn't even be Keter class.  You could just store it in a large very bumpy warehouse(or something big enough to be within the bounds of vicinity) and them smush up(or eat) all the cakes but one.   

It probably preferentially replicates to flat surfaces, but I doubt its required.
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« Reply #28 on: November 30, 2016, 04:21:22 pm »

Does the top of a cake count as a flat surface?
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« Reply #29 on: November 30, 2016, 04:33:26 pm »

Maybe. Depends on the cake. Not all cakes are sheet cakes. The scp says the cake is always cake, but the appearance and type are not predictable. The solution space for fancy cakes is only limited by human imagination, so theoretically most will be fancy cakes, which tend to not be flat.
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