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Icons, like ASCII but prettier.

Hand-drawn, like an old-timey sepia map.

Full graphics, like JRPGs with full-on sprites.

Same as the tileset ingame. Forests would use the tree sprite, mountains a rock sprite, etc.

Other. Please post your ideas/examples.

[Meph]

What about some foreign weapons? I always wanted to add a few RL cultures to DF, but using actual RL location/country names feels out of place. So instead of Japanese, Viking, Germanic and Egyptian, how about...



I'd love to do some African tribal warfare (maasai, zulu); South American (Inca, Maya, Atztec), Arabic (Ottoman, Sultans of Arabia) and Roman/Greek. Maybe Polynesian (cool Sword-fish swords ), or Maori... or North American Natives.

And then come up with a good naming scheme for 8-10 civs, without using RL locations OR using stupid racial stereotypes. ^^

[Splint]

Personally I'm fine with using IRL place stuff if it's more practical, or as a place holder.

Seems like a neat idea though.

[Thundercraft]

What about some foreign weapons? I always wanted to add a few RL cultures to DF, but using actual RL location/country names feels out of place. So instead of Japanese, Viking, Germanic and Egyptian, how about...

Looks good, except... I'd prefer to see one or two more 2H spear-like weapons for Men of the North (or West).

Also, I find rare or unusual weapons to be particularly interesting, such as the Goedendag or "spear club". That weapon is merely a hefty wood staff with a very pointy, but small, metal spear tip. "Good day sir... I said good day sir!" [WHAM!] [STAB!]

@Meph will you make a new release once the latest DF Revised is ready?

Maybe? ^^ Is it ready?

Checking the Revised topic OP, it seems it hasn't officially been updated since July 31. However, as has been pointed out several times, the version of Revised currently used by Meph Tileset is much older than what is officially available. And Taffer, himself, posted here that quote, "current release is IMO a (comparably) good time to update things." So, technically, it's been ready for a while now.

Unofficially, Darkond2100 has already merged the updated Revised with your Meph Tileset. There were some errors that cropped up. However, these error messages mostly had to do with language issues, word token typos (e.g., should have used TAUPE_GRAY instead of TAUPE_GREY) or missing punctuation in a few places. (See page 26 of the Revised topic.)

Since then, Darkond2100 has taken another stab at trying to fix these errors. This is the result:

DFFD - File: MephFortress ReRevised

I don't know how old your Revised option is, but my current release is IMO a (comparably) good time to update things. I'm mostly done with the descriptions and I'm avoiding editing the comments, so the diff between this version and whatever my next version is should be comparably small.

Oh yeah, that's something I could do. Thanks for the heads up.

Revised was requested a couple of times and Taffer was kind enough to allow me to put it in. As splint said, you can toggle it on in the launcher. It's not the most up to date version of Revised, since I haven't touched that part for a while.

Hey, it's been a while since the last update on this set. Any requests by now, ideas for the future, bugs? (apart from the adv mode stuff that I couldn't fix)

Since you're asking for requests... Would you consider updating the Revised portion of your package to the latest version (v2.1.0)? Please? The Revised thread still indicates that the mod's status is on "hiatus", so it should not get a new update any time soon.

[Superdorf]

Only trouble I have with that system of weapon-naming... you're totally gonna get "Men of the North" in southern corners of the world, and vice versa.

I guess you could fluff it as "these cultures arrived on this particular DF continent from their correspondent corners of the globe"? "Boat" is a word in the dwarven-human-elfin-goblin languages, after all, despite the utter lack of boats in modern-day DF worlds...

[Meph]

Only trouble I have with that system of weapon-naming... you're totally gonna get "Men of the North" in southern corners of the world, and vice versa.

I guess you could fluff it as "these cultures arrived on this particular DF continent from their correspondent corners of the globe"? "Boat" is a word in the dwarven-human-elfin-goblin languages, after all, despite the utter lack of boats in modern-day DF worlds...

Depends if I add 4 human civs, or if I just add them through workshops. ^^

-awesome sauce-

Thanks so much for that. Seems I should have been paying more attention. I'm downloading the updated Revised now, will have a look at everything.

[Bumber]

What about some foreign weapons? I always wanted to add a few RL cultures to DF, but using actual RL location/country names feels out of place. So instead of Japanese, Viking, Germanic and Egyptian, how about...

What are Throwing Gloves? Are they gloves that throw stuff, or are they gloves that get thrown at people?

[Darkond2100]

What about some foreign weapons? I always wanted to add a few RL cultures to DF, but using actual RL location/country names feels out of place. So instead of Japanese, Viking, Germanic and Egyptian, how about...

What are Throwing Gloves? Are they gloves that throw stuff, or are they gloves that get thrown at people?

Ranged weapons require a weapon + ammo. Throwing knives aren't systematically implemented, nor are throwing spears.

[Meph]

Correct.

I only have the option to make a "throwing tool" of sorts, like spear + atlatl. Or black ninja gloves that people wear when they throw shuriken around. The alternative would be "shuriken (weapon) + shuriken (ammo)" which is a bit confusing at times.

[zennyrpg]

Just downloaded this and started generating worlds-- I noticed a strange "ocean" looking area.  After embarking and investigating, I found out it was white sand.  The white sand desert on the world map and white sand desert on the minimap after embark are showing up as blue.  I switched color schemes (Pheobus, Spacefox) and fonts (Gemset, Ascii Square) and that didn't change it.  Is this a known issue of one of the mods in the stack used here?  The tileset graphics are correct.

edit: double checked and the area affected is "calm" and "wilderness"

[Pvt. Pirate]

Correct.

I only have the option to make a "throwing tool" of sorts, like spear + atlatl. Or black ninja gloves that people wear when they throw shuriken around. The alternative would be "shuriken (weapon) + shuriken (ammo)" which is a bit confusing at times.

were throwing weapons suggested to toady?
it would be weird to pick up shuriken in adv mode ad not being able to throw them.

[LeoCean]

Training rooms look nice, the whole August 3rd update instead of September threw me off . But aren't these workshops basically the  "Skill Practice Workshops" from dwarf fortress cheats? This is definitely better with graphics and probably encompasses much more though. Looking forward to using it, since it looks cool.

New weapons look good as well.

[Bumber]

were throwing weapons suggested to toady?
it would be weird to pick up shuriken in adv mode ad not being able to throw them.

Adventurers can [t]hrow anything in their inventory. Fort dwarves only do so during a tantrum.

[Meph]

Training rooms look nice, the whole August 3rd update instead of September threw me off . But aren't these workshops basically the  "Skill Practice Workshops" from dwarf fortress cheats? This is definitely better with graphics and probably encompasses much more though. Looking forward to using it, since it looks cool.

New weapons look good as well.

Apparently I forgot which month it was. ^^

Is there a mod like this already, with training reactions for everything? I did everything from scratch, even though I have made similar systems in Masterwork previously. Initially they had three reactions (slow/free, tool/medium, coin/fast) but Toady One changed how XP works at some point between updates. :/

[LeoCean]

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

https://dwarffortresswiki.org/index.php/DF2014:Cheating#Skill_Practice_Workshops or https://dwarffortresswiki.org/index.php/Shaostoul%27s_Guide

I'm not too sure how it works though, haven't used it. (well enough to know it works effectively~ the reaction works~) I'm guessing it just works in the way that you use the workshop and when the reaction is completed the xp goes to the skill the workshop is set to increase, unknown how much xp would be granted.

Seems this should work as well.

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

[REACTION:TRAIN_M_001]
[NAME:Train Sneak]
[BUILDING:TRAINING_BOOTH_MILITARY:NONE]
[SKILL:SNEAK]

But I think maybe it did need those reactions to work, or those reactions were added to make it cost something(so it couldn't be purely abused), or not I just downloaded it and it's pretty much exactly what you use. But it does seem you tested more advanced version where it can give more xp(which doesn't seem to be effective anymore).

[REACTION:TRAIN_SLOW_SNEAK]
   [NAME:Train Ambusher/Hunter]
   [BUILDING:MEPH_TRAINING_WORKSHOP_RANGER:CUSTOM_A]
      DESCRIPTION:Free skill training.
      DESCRIPTION:blank
      DESCRIPTION:Uses x skill.
   [SKILL:SNEAK]

Maybe it'd be better to make this a sort of druid magic by adding a reaction like this,

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

[BUILDING:PRACTICE_WORKSHOP:NONE]
[REAGENT:A:150:BAR:NO_SUBTYPE:COAL:COKE]
[PRODUCT:100:1:BAR:NO_SUBTYPE:COAL:COKE][PRODUCT_DIMENSION:150]
[SKILL:FORGE_ARMOR]

Of course with plant materials instead, or with water or lava buckets, water bucket goes in gets emptied and comes out as a bucket(but then again it uses the bucket in the reaction and the product should be a set bucket type(not sure of this) so could possibly abused to get free resources of that type if you don't have it(from smelting bucket?) ).

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

So with this?
[REACTION:EMPTY_BUCKET] added by Crypto with thanks to Meph
   [NAME:empty water bucket]
   [BUILDING:KITCHEN:CUSTOM_E]
   [REAGENT:water:1:LIQUID_MISC:NONE:WATER:NONE][PRODUCT_DIMENSION:150]
   [REAGENT:water bucket:1:NONE:NONE:NONE:NONE]
      [CONTAINS:water]
      [NOT_IMPROVED]
      [PRESERVE_REAGENT]

[Meph]

All unnecessary, it gives 30xp, regardless of any products. I tested several versions using dwarf therapist.