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Lozzymandias

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« on: September 29, 2016, 06:56:54 am »

I have a pet necromancer. He turned up on the first tower siege and he's been an invaluable addition to the fortress.
Recently I chained him up next to a pit with fortifications between him and the pit so he can reanimate all the carp I dump in there. In order to put him on a combat stance I dug a pit on the other side, carved a fortification and dumped a dog in there. Now he will reanimate whenever, not just when there are folk in the Lazarus pit.

Fast forward 3 months. He's stopped showing the blue exclamation mark, he has a brown one now. What does this mean? Has the terror driven him mad? Can non-fortress-citizens be stressed? He can't be tired because necromancer don't tire...

For reference my texture pack is obsidian
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Re: Unknown status indicator
« Reply #1 on: September 29, 2016, 07:06:25 am »

Brown exclamation mark means that he is distracted.

It happens when someone doesn't get to fulfill many of their needs for a long time. I don't think it should have much of an effect on his ability to reanimate though.
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« Reply #2 on: September 29, 2016, 07:43:20 am »

Chaining is not a stellar option, I think. I tried using a necro and chained a gobbo (caught from a siege, not a visitor) as a bait. The gobbo eventually went into a tantrum and destroyed the chain so I had to put it down. I think it's safer to lock them in using locked doors and releasing them in the door with a cage hooked up to a lever.
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Lozzymandias

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« Reply #3 on: September 29, 2016, 07:00:49 pm »

If goblins can tantrum... Does this mean goblins can go mad? Do they have stress levels the way dwarves do? And moreover the way fortress dwarfs do?
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« Reply #4 on: September 30, 2016, 02:39:27 am »

Probably. I didn't expect the bugger to care. I haven't seen any effects from being released from a cage into a locked room, though, so I suspect it's the humiliation factor of being "punished" that's in play. No facts, only pure guessing, though.
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« Reply #5 on: October 13, 2016, 03:24:03 pm »

Update: It does

After 2 or so years of being chained up the bastard finally lost it. He doesn't reanimate anymore, he just runs gibbering around on his chain.

I've necroed my own thread because this is a development of some importance i feel. Invaders can go mad as well! This one is a dwarf. I'm going to try with a human later. Be careful with your necromancers, they have feelings too.

Not sure what to do with this one. I could club him to death, but i've half a mind to let him loose outside the castle. He won't ever thirst to death and i'm curious what he'll do in the legends...
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« Reply #6 on: October 13, 2016, 03:41:23 pm »

Very useful !SCIENCE! :)  I knew that Caravan personnel would become insane after a couple of months, but no invaders.  Also, if your Fortress is still running, can we have pics of your setup?  I mean, to intentionally create zombie carp rests on the very cusp of genius & madness.

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« Reply #7 on: October 13, 2016, 04:01:29 pm »

what if you have a necromancer killed and then have another necro reanimate the corpse of the first? can the undead one still reanimate? I know I read somewhere that ghost necros can still animate, and can animate their own corpse...
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« Reply #8 on: October 13, 2016, 08:20:26 pm »

That's actually really awesome, I didn't know I could pyschologically kill invaders, too
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« Reply #9 on: October 13, 2016, 09:44:28 pm »

The temptation to trap a goblin siege in a sealed room and let them go berserk and kill each other is rising...
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« Reply #10 on: October 14, 2016, 02:09:42 pm »

Could you trap him next to a well crafted chair and dump well crafted un-claimed jewelry and clothes on him to help keep him sane?
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« Reply #11 on: October 14, 2016, 02:11:15 pm »

I have constructed a SCIENCE CENTER in my current fortress.

For instance did you know that it can take three years for a naked elf to freeze to death if the roof of his cell is made of ice? They don't freeze without that ice-roof.
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« Reply #12 on: October 14, 2016, 09:55:00 pm »

(insert joke about flaming queens and hot chicks here.)

on second thought, let's not.
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Lozzymandias

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« Reply #13 on: October 16, 2016, 11:37:37 am »

Very useful !SCIENCE! :)  I knew that Caravan personnel would become insane after a couple of months, but no invaders.  Also, if your Fortress is still running, can we have pics of your setup?  I mean, to intentionally create zombie carp rests on the very cusp of genius & madness.

Sorry Immortal, its a rearranged carp, not an actual carp :P I also have struggled in vain to include images in my posts, maybe its different for linux. I dunno.
In any case its just a room two z high with one wall all carved into fortifications, with another smaller room on the other side, and a load of doors rigged up in from of the fortifications on the small room side. The doors are rigged to a lever so you can expose the line of sight. I didn't want to risk atom smashing the necromancer. The main room has a hatch at the top, so i can pit creatures into it, and also a minecart shotgun linked to an animal stockpile, because when you're pitting prisoners one always escapes, and its easier to get them out of their cages using the shotgun effect.
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