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[Cruxador]

This is an image of a dwarven child in paint.  The dwarven child is weeping.

They're spilling their drinks.

[Farmerbob]

a dwarf is nothing more than a ApeMen?

Hehe I wouldn't want to tell Urist that.

Tell me that a sortof human looking biped about 5 feet tall, with a torso twice as wide as a human, and arms as big as human legs wouldn't be damn impressive and intimidating, especially after you watch it carrying an elephant back from a hunting trip.  Sure the legs are only about two feet long, but really, would you want to fight that?

 

[Akigagak]

You wouldn't need to fight, just run past them, using your long, human legs to easily outpace them and get to your objective.

[Farmerbob]

You wouldn't need to fight, just run past them, using your long, human legs to easily outpace them and get to your objective.

  Crossbows.  Failing that, rocks, thrown by really long, powerful arms capable of carrying elephants.

I dug up some photos of gorillas walking upright just to see what it looked like.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ad7qzI03fqE&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CrQf6cogMuI&feature=related

I can really see dwarves built a lot along those lines, except shorter and broader, with less body hair but big, huge beards 

*edit* and not only that, but with arms long enough, a dwarf could run like a quadruped, and likely be faster than a human.  Gorillas are NOT slow on the ground when they want to move.

[Rumrusher]

You wouldn't need to fight, just run past them, using your long, human legs to easily outpace them and get to your objective.

  Crossbows.  Failing that, rocks, thrown by really long, powerful arms capable of carrying elephants.

I dug up some photos of gorillas walking upright just to see what it looked like.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ad7qzI03fqE&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CrQf6cogMuI&feature=related

I can really see dwarves built a lot along those lines, except shorter and broader, with less body hair but big, huge beards 

*edit* and not only that, but with arms long enough, a dwarf could run like a quadruped, and likely be faster than a human.  Gorillas are NOT slow on the ground when they want to move.

so you picture these guys with beards.
well make sense with their prone of not caring for fire safety.

[Farmerbob]

Heh, Rumrusher, never played that game.  I generally only play DF and MMO's  I made an exception for Fallout NV, but didn't like it much, not enough content.

However, yes, the basic shape, but less diseased looking and shorter.  I figure about five feet tall, 400 lbs+ or so.

*edit* Hrm, Ambam (walking gorilla) is 6 ft tall when upright and 475 lbs.  Probably want dwarves to be 5 ft tall and 500+ lbs on average.  they wouldn't be much wider than gorillas if they weighed less and were only about a foot shorter.

[Rumrusher]

So Gorilla could end up being mayor of a dwarf fortress just by looks if I'm following you?

[Lysabild]

I can definately follow Farmerbob's line of though here. If we do away with all the fantasy MAGIC crap and consider the evolution of Dwarves it becomes a lot more fun imho.

[Farmerbob]

I can definately follow Farmerbob's line of though here. If we do away with all the fantasy MAGIC crap and consider the evolution of Dwarves it becomes a lot more fun imho.

Hrm, Cromagnons killed off all the Neanderthals - except the ones that moved underground, grew beards, and got cave-adapted.  Those Neanderthals were naturally selected to get shorter and shorter because tall ones kept braining themselves against the tops of tunnels, and dying due to smoke inhalation and lung scarring in tunnels near forges (they also discovered that if they built really tall tunnels, they would be able to breathe better, which explains why dragons and titans can move in dwarf tunnels).  Cromagnons got fire aboveground, Neanderthals were smart enough to realize how useful it might be, and soon found it belowground...

*heh*  This is a bit entertaining thinking about alternate evolution 

[Fault]

interior of a dwarf fortress



this time with some stuff on fire

[Shinziril]

Mmm, engravings.

[Ogdibus]

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[Yoink]

Fault, that is beautiful. The style in that one kinda reminds me of Wind Waker, actually... Especialy the view out to the sky, and the flames. Really, truly great.

[Zaphod]

[Elaxter]

This is how I picture a cover art of Dwarf Fortress if it ever needed it.