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[Sergarr]

Neither do treehuggerhuggers

Do you want quote pyramids? This is how you get quote pyramids. Silly treehuggerhuggerhugger.

I accidentally read the middle "hugger" as "bugger"...

was my mind always that dirty

[Neonivek]

Arx, Asexual is actually the formal term, yeah. People started using that for people who prefer their relationships to be intercourse-free, which confuses things.

Honestly, we should probs come up with a better word for "No Sex Pls". Or redefine orientation in terms of Attraction like in the thought experiment a few pages ago. That works better than defining orientation as Who You Want To Have Sex With, so people don't have to specify that they still want romantic relationships but don't experience sexual desire. Androphilic/Gynophilic casts love and romantic attraction as the important part, rather than the sexy times, and I like the simplicity.

The nickname for people who don't like or want sex with anyone... are Aces

[TempAcc]

All that elf booty ... gone to waste.

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Arx, Asexual is actually the formal term, yeah. People started using that for people who prefer their relationships to be intercourse-free, which confuses things.

Honestly, we should probs come up with a better word for "No Sex Pls". Or redefine orientation in terms of Attraction like in the thought experiment a few pages ago. That works better than defining orientation as Who You Want To Have Sex With, so people don't have to specify that they still want romantic relationships but don't experience sexual desire. Androphilic/Gynophilic casts love and romantic attraction as the important part, rather than the sexy times, and I like the simplicity.

The nickname for people who don't like or want sex with anyone... are Aces

Hilariously enough, in many games, the ace card has the least value, and is only worth many points when combined with other cards. So its the least asexual nickname for asexuals, while also implying asexuals are trash :v
Plus I never met anyone who seriously adopted the term, which is good.

[Neonivek]

The Ace is typically the wild card. The smallest and largest and in Tarot the Ace are typically the hero.

[Rolepgeek]

I've met someone who uses Ace as a descriptor for themselves.

It's literally just short for asexual. Just like trans and bi are shortened versions of transgendered/transsexual and bisexual.

[Dozebôm Lolumzalìs]

Hmm, interesting, so there are multiple components to, or expressions of, dysphoria? I remember that autism has multiple "components," and somebody with a certain number or more would be considered autistic; is dysphoria similar, or is it "all components or nothing"?

[Starver]

I used to use "ACE" if ever I had a score good enough to be asked to record it on an arcade video game¹, three or four decades ago.

Click, right, right, Click, right, right, Click...
(Or "Fire, Drift over, Fire, Drift over, Fire" in a light-pistol game, which I was strangely often very good at..)

Nothing to do with my initials, but then I never was out to prove anything, and if I saw "ACE" on a game I hadn't played, I still got that internal warm feeling, in taking credit from a true narcissist... 



¹ For the youngsters among us a "video game arcade" had, like, loads of nintendos and xboxes and things, only before there were xboxes, all sort of like running MAME, but you couldn't do anything to change the MAME game, 'cos they were, like, sealed into a big TV cabinet (a big cabinet with a small TV in it, actually) and the joypad was only accessible by pressing buttons attached to the cabinet and you had to put coins in a slot to work the little generator to power the controls, or something...  Because of all this security, they had to put a load of these machines in one big room, and you went to the bit of the room that had the cabinet playing the game you wanted and then waited whilst someone on the autistic spectrum used his few coins to keep the game you wanted to play going for half an hour or more...   Or something like that. Some of the details are lost in the mists of time, and the only thing anybody really knows is that these places also suffered from thematically-inclined graffitit artists, such that the cabinets were all covered with strange writing that was often, but not always, related to the kind of thing the cabinet's TV was showing.

[Sergarr]

Hmm, interesting, so there are multiple components to, or expressions of, dysphoria? I remember that autism has multiple "components," and somebody with a certain number or more would be considered autistic; is dysphoria similar, or is it "all components or nothing"?

I'm pretty sure that people have already said that it's individual. We're talking about our minds, remember? Our personalities are not so easy to put into neat color-coded boxes.

[Dozebôm Lolumzalìs]

Not components as in "components of the mind." That was a bad word. I suppose "symptom" is a better way of putting it, although still imperfect.

[Solifuge]

Hmm. If nothing else, I've known several people who experience dysphoria differently. I've known people who are deeply upset about their body and/or the role society put them in, or who have a fundamental feeling that their body isn't "right". I know other people who'd just prefer to have a different body or role, so they change and experiment until they find something that they like... like adopting a new style of clothes or getting a new haircut. No doubt there's shades between these, and others who experience it differently than either.

We can't know anyone else's mind, so we have to trust people's self-assessment. Still, sometimes I wonder if the Hardcore Dysphoria is just a reaction against the aggressive gender policing that happens in some religious or cultural circles. In some places, it wouldn't be enough to just have a preference to tweak their body, or to want to dress in a different way than their culture deems appropriate for their assigned gender role. In cases like that, I could see someone using that kind of Dysphoria to "justify" their identity in a way those people would accept.

Same stuff happens with gay folks, being forced to justify an open sexuality as some clear-cut biological or fundamental difference in their sexuality, rather than just being an interest or preference. Wish we could just generally let people love who they want to love at any given time, without slapping labels on it. Sexualities and Gender Identities and all that change as people live and grow, and learn about themselves. I worry that talking about them in terms of absolute labels and fundamental traits might make people think less of folks who change ore redefine them as they come to understand themselves better.

[Rolan7]

I just played a pretty IF game about dysmorphia.  It's a bit heavy handed with the symbolism but not too bad, some people might like it.

At first I thought it was being judgemental of my choices but actually, probably not.  I think I was projecting my self-resentment on it!  And a game that can give me a bit of introspection like that isn't so bad, particularly a short one.

Does take a while to load though, lots of animated gifs and music.  https://fallingawkwardly.wordpress.com/games-by-me/
(It's the same person who LP'd Witcher and analyzed the "love interests" so comedically)

[Solifuge]

Oof. Some of the content itself was feels-inducing to the point of being emotionally difficult... but I liked the experience. Played through, and got the 4 endings. Loved the artistry, particularly the duality in the visuals and scroll-over text. Feeling a bit melancholy, but thank you for sharing it.

Spoiler: Spoilery, sleepy thoughts. (click to show/hide)

The endings have got me thinking how happiness sorta lies in that middle road, between honesty with yourself, and avoidance of conflict when there's nothing to gain. Giving in fully to bloody fights against people who are just ignorantly complying with the establishment, or completely hiding who you are from the world... neither builds you a safe and healthy social space in the world, with people who know you and feel safe around you either.

To be fair, the tone was one of being in a place that's hostile to your nature or existence... and in situations like that, you kinda either have to get into an argument/fight, or silence yourself/leave. Still, I think the way to change that is through honesty with and compassion for the aggressors in the system. Got to build bridges and create ambassadors, not ignore the existing ignorance or make new enemies.

[alway]

The Ace is typically the wild card. The smallest and largest and in Tarot the Ace are typically the hero.

As a noun, ace can refer to playing cards, but as an adjective, it's more clear about connotation. As in an ace pilot or similar. Whose etymology comes from the fact that aces are often the most valuable card. So yeah, ace is a term which generally has very positive connotation to it.

[scriver]

To me, it has extreme douche connotations. Anyone who would unironically use the word ace about themselves would get a huge "can you believe this guy?" marker in my internal person register.

[Edmus]

Same goes for any positive descriptor though. Who non-ironically calls themselves cool?