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Author Topic: Doc Helgoland's Asylum for the Politically American: T+0  (Read 1423782 times)

Criptfeind

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Re: Doc Helgoland's Asylum for the Politically American: Post-Apocalypse
« Reply #12630 on: November 14, 2016, 10:34:53 pm »

Basically, intolerance of intolerance is not okay.
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Re: Doc Helgoland's Asylum for the Politically American: Post-Apocalypse
« Reply #12631 on: November 14, 2016, 10:35:32 pm »

Basically, intolerance of intolerance is not okay.
One more step - how did I use those terms?

oh wait

you can't know that

I was too vague for you to tell

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« Reply #12632 on: November 14, 2016, 10:36:06 pm »

I was too vague for you to tell

No. Shit. That's my point.
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« Reply #12633 on: November 14, 2016, 10:37:03 pm »

Ambiguity causes breakdown in communication. However, note I am not the one who started the dialog with that choice of words. I merely pointed out the error.

No, like I said, Doze started it, and you wholeheartedly agreed. You didn't point out shit. I had to spend like 20 minutes digging though your non sequitur responses to suss it out.

Which, in the lexicon I used, is correct. Which is why I agreed.

They were also not nonsequitors. You just did not understand the language.

Which I helped with, when you stated it clearly what your objection was.
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« Reply #12634 on: November 14, 2016, 10:40:24 pm »

Yes, the Meribster dictionary.

Google is fairly sure that dictionary doesn't exist. ;)

https://www.google.com/#q=meribster+dictionary

I was trying to shitpost along with you guys.
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Re: Doc Helgoland's Asylum for the Politically American: Post-Apocalypse
« Reply #12635 on: November 14, 2016, 10:42:15 pm »

I was too vague for you to tell

No. Shit. That's my point.

I said words. They turned out to be too vague. I tried to clarify, which didn't work. Does it work now?

I don't blame you for misunderstanding my vagueness. I also don't think that I have "won." That was tongue-in-cheek.


On weird:

Wierd used the same definitions as I did. He agreed, because with his definition, the words I said made sense and lined up with his stance on the topic.

You apparently use a different definition for the word "tolerance," so the words I said made no sense. I apologize for being unclear.
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« Reply #12636 on: November 14, 2016, 10:43:31 pm »

Whoosh.

I see my command of irony is too great.

The use of language other than its literal intention, that my friends is irony.

Eg, "I see your shitpost, and raise 50."
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« Reply #12637 on: November 14, 2016, 10:44:17 pm »

Aaaaaand let's shift bases.

Great quote here.

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And this isn’t a weird exception. Freud spoke of the narcissism of small differences, saying that “it is precisely communities with adjoining territories, and related to each other in other ways as well, who are engaged in constant feuds and ridiculing each other”. Nazis and German Jews. Northern Irish Protestants and Northern Irish Catholics. Hutus and Tutsis. South African whites and South African blacks. Israeli Jews and Israeli Arabs. Anyone in the former Yugoslavia and anyone else in the former Yugoslavia.
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« Reply #12638 on: November 14, 2016, 10:47:03 pm »

Oh good, an argument over definitions. I haven't seen that one in a loooong while. Fun!
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« Reply #12639 on: November 14, 2016, 10:48:19 pm »

Aaaaaand let's shift bases.

Great quote here.

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And this isn’t a weird exception. Freud spoke of the narcissism of small differences, saying that “it is precisely communities with adjoining territories, and related to each other in other ways as well, who are engaged in constant feuds and ridiculing each other”. Nazis and German Jews. Northern Irish Protestants and Northern Irish Catholics. Hutus and Tutsis. South African whites and South African blacks. Israeli Jews and Israeli Arabs. Anyone in the former Yugoslavia and anyone else in the former Yugoslavia.

Freud is a quack compared to modern psychology, sure, he made it popular, but he's wrong on so many things.
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« Reply #12640 on: November 14, 2016, 10:49:03 pm »

I'm okay swapping gears, the euphoria is getting a bit much.

That's. Interesting. Although I think in an ever more connected world we're able to find more and more people further and further away more and more different from ourselves. And realize that we have room to hate absolutely everyone. I think we've made a lot of progress on the hate front.
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« Reply #12641 on: November 14, 2016, 10:50:23 pm »

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« Reply #12642 on: November 14, 2016, 10:52:08 pm »

I would point out parallels with nonhuman objects, specifically the uncanny valley with robots.

This is twofold in reasoning.

1) the evolution of such hate requires dehumanization.

2) the most hated things are those most like ourselves, but also decidedly not like us in some way.
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« Reply #12643 on: November 14, 2016, 10:53:29 pm »

How the heck did we go from Freud, to puppies, to uncanny-valley robots in four posts?
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« Reply #12644 on: November 14, 2016, 10:54:05 pm »

It's hard to hate somebody that you never see. The people right next door? Easy.

How the heck did we go from Freud, to puppies, to uncanny-valley robots in four posts?

Welcome to Bay12, where the rails never even existed.
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Quote from: King James Programming
...Simplification leaves us with the black extra-cosmic gulfs it throws open before our frenzied eyes...
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The only difference between me and a fool is that I know that I know only that I think, therefore I am.
Sigtext!
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