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Re: Doc Helgoland's Asylum for the Politically American: Post-Apocalypse
« Reply #12585 on: November 14, 2016, 08:42:04 pm »

Because McCarthyism and concentration camps are obviously good ideas and we need more of them in our history.
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Re: Doc Helgoland's Asylum for the Politically American: Post-Apocalypse
« Reply #12586 on: November 14, 2016, 08:43:06 pm »

Because McCarthyism and concentration camps are obviously good ideas and we need more of them in our history.

Yes. We always need more. /s
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Re: Doc Helgoland's Asylum for the Politically American: Post-Apocalypse
« Reply #12587 on: November 14, 2016, 08:43:38 pm »

criminals fleeing HERE ironically
Frickin' hipster criminals, coming over here and deluging us with their artisanal small-batch meth and their thievery-as-performance-art. At least they're easy to spot; anyone who answers questioning with a roll of their eyes and a "pshyeah, sure I'm here legally" and then goes off to write bad poetry about the overlooked simplicity and purity of 16-hour days picking strawberries, well...
Hipster criminals are literally the worst, but I meant usually people labeled as a criminal overseas who flee here are trying to evade persecution at the hands of a given regime, rather than people running here and being like "ha ha, can't get me for murder now, I touched US soil and called base, not it!" or something.
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Re: Doc Helgoland's Asylum for the Politically American: Post-Apocalypse
« Reply #12588 on: November 14, 2016, 08:45:35 pm »

criminals fleeing HERE ironically
Frickin' hipster criminals, coming over here and deluging us with their artisanal small-batch meth and their thievery-as-performance-art. At least they're easy to spot; anyone who answers questioning with a roll of their eyes and a "pshyeah, sure I'm here legally" and then goes off to write bad poetry about the overlooked simplicity and purity of 16-hour days picking strawberries, well...
Hipster criminals are literally the worst, but I meant usually people labeled as a criminal overseas who flee here are trying to evade persecution at the hands of a given regime, rather than people running here and being like "ha ha, can't get me for murder now, I touched US soil and called base, not it!" or something.

They must have a very distorted view of the american penal system.... 
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Re: Doc Helgoland's Asylum for the Politically American: Post-Apocalypse
« Reply #12589 on: November 14, 2016, 08:47:05 pm »

It's the little known 16-and-a-half-th Amendment.
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« Reply #12590 on: November 14, 2016, 08:49:11 pm »

http://www.politico.com/story/2016/11/chuck-schumer-stephen-bannon-231382

Hmm, could they impeach Trump for being a bigot? And yes, I know Pence is even worse a bigot in some ways than others. edit: Then again, that'd be the height of political kangarooity....
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Re: Doc Helgoland's Asylum for the Politically American: Post-Apocalypse
« Reply #12591 on: November 14, 2016, 08:58:17 pm »

criminals fleeing HERE ironically
Frickin' hipster criminals, coming over here and deluging us with their artisanal small-batch meth and their thievery-as-performance-art. At least they're easy to spot; anyone who answers questioning with a roll of their eyes and a "pshyeah, sure I'm here legally" and then goes off to write bad poetry about the overlooked simplicity and purity of 16-hour days picking strawberries, well...
Hipster criminals are literally the worst, but I meant usually people labeled as a criminal overseas who flee here are trying to evade persecution at the hands of a given regime, rather than people running here and being like "ha ha, can't get me for murder now, I touched US soil and called base, not it!" or something.

They must have a very distorted view of the american penal system....
Or they don't, and still prefer it to the old country.

I mean, at least here we let you share a blanket with someone during the night
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Re: Doc Helgoland's Asylum for the Politically American: Post-Apocalypse
« Reply #12592 on: November 14, 2016, 09:03:56 pm »

Heh, "let"... "share" funny stuff. Though, it would be hilarious if there were cases of people fleeing prosecution for actual crimes elsewhere and then showing up and trying to use the 16½th: Whosoever arrives upon American soil and declares "base" shall not be prosecuted for alleged actions elsewhere, unless a prior writ of "Olly-Olly-Oxen-Free" was submitted by the relevant prosecutors.
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Re: Doc Helgoland's Asylum for the Politically American: Post-Apocalypse
« Reply #12593 on: November 14, 2016, 09:17:08 pm »

To not tolerate the intolerant is of course a no-win trap.

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Basically, intolerance of intolerance is not okay. And you certainly can't claim to be "good because I'm tolerant" if you're only tolerant of people and ideologies that you like! As an ex-intolerance-intolerator, LET US DISCUSS THIS POSTHASTE.
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Re: Doc Helgoland's Asylum for the Politically American: Post-Apocalypse
« Reply #12594 on: November 14, 2016, 09:28:53 pm »

Because Crashmaster does like Trump, just like Covenant and half the people who got banned. These discussions are blatantly coming from a patronizing stance of "I can't let these braindead lefties know I want to Make America Great Again, so I'll just JAQ' off while subtly praising Trump until they learn better".
Aren't the subtleties are out of politeness because MAGA tier posts would come across as obnoxious and aggressive, whilst at least subtle and patronizing is a better perception
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Re: Doc Helgoland's Asylum for the Politically American: Post-Apocalypse
« Reply #12595 on: November 14, 2016, 09:30:23 pm »

To not tolerate the intolerant is of course a no-win trap.

Oh hey, it's that time again! Obligatory awesome post.

Basically, intolerance of intolerance is not okay. And you certainly can't claim to be "good because I'm tolerant" if you're only tolerant of people and ideologies that you like! As an ex-intolerance-intolerator, LET US DISCUSS THIS POSTHASTE.

Yay, somebody besides myself gets it!
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« Reply #12596 on: November 14, 2016, 09:31:42 pm »

... Are you telling people to tolerate people being intolerant towards them?
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Re: Doc Helgoland's Asylum for the Politically American: Post-Apocalypse
« Reply #12597 on: November 14, 2016, 09:34:18 pm »

To not tolerate the intolerant is of course a no-win trap.

Oh hey, it's that time again! Obligatory awesome post.

Basically, intolerance of intolerance is not okay. And you certainly can't claim to be "good because I'm tolerant" if you're only tolerant of people and ideologies that you like! As an ex-intolerance-intolerator, LET US DISCUSS THIS POSTHASTE.

And something to keep in mind for the kneejerk reaction to this I think a lot of people will have: accepting and tolerating are not the same. A Mormon who finds out their nephew is gay and still invites him to family dinners, but doesn't actively support them or want to attend their wedding, is tolerating, but not accepting. A Muslim who finds out their daughter has become Christian, and helps her set up a small shrine to Jesus the Prophet with a cross and etc. is accepting, not just tolerating. Don't accept intolerance. But you need to at least tolerate it.

Speaking of, acceptance is not a requirement for being a good person. It's certainly nice, but going from tolerance to acceptance is a heavy shift; you can always tolerate someone's viewpoint (not necessarily the actions of intolerance; viewpoints that are prejudiced are a different matter entirely from actions), even if it's unseemly or antithetical to your own; accepting it requires your own to change, however.

@LW: From what I've seen of the alt-right, they don't support LGBT whatsoever. Though I suppose when I think alt-right I think monarchists and shit, not just 'far-right pseudo-nazis'.

And for your daily announcement: Remember citizens! A lack of aggression, without a show of submission, is just a more devious hostile act. Seek out the enemy in all their forms, and destroy!

... Are you telling people to tolerate people being intolerant towards them?
No. Tolerate viewpoints you don't like. Don't tolerate people carrying out actions which are harmful to others or yourself.
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Re: Doc Helgoland's Asylum for the Politically American: Post-Apocalypse
« Reply #12598 on: November 14, 2016, 09:34:45 pm »

Freedom of thought and expression is a two way street.

I as the saying goes, "I do not agree with a word you say, but will defend to the death your right to say it."

A belief is never wrong to have, only wrong to act on.
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Re: Doc Helgoland's Asylum for the Politically American: Post-Apocalypse
« Reply #12599 on: November 14, 2016, 09:36:35 pm »

The greatest form of tolerance is apathy! Let's tolerate racism! Let's tolerate misinformation! Let's tolerate death!
Nothing really matters, so let's tolerate everything! Yup, it's fine, intolerant people, go ahead, we don't mind at all!
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