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[misko27]

New Mexico baby! Deliver unto me the points!

[Dozebôm Lolumzalěs]

What're the odds I can get on a Jill presidency these days?

All too low.

[Rolan7]

What're the odds I can get on a Jill presidency these days?

You'd probably be better off asking the chances of her candidacy having a significant effect on the political climate.  Which are, tragically, low, because she's fricken insane edit sorry, slightly left of center, and also....
I don't mean the liberal activism, that was awesome and I'd love to have a nonviolent LCS president.  I mean she threw in with libertarians-
huh.  When I put it like that, I sorta sound like an asshole.
but... but they're so *wrong*...

Anyway she killed her chances of being notable, for better or for worse.

[mainiac]

What're the odds I can get on a Jill presidency these days?

I would give you one in a million odds.  All that needs to happen is Clinton or Trump appoints a person named Jill to the cabinet and then have terrorists blow up the capital during the SOTU address with that person being the cabinet officer not in attendance.

[smjjames]

There may still be a good sized chunk of Utah going for Johnson. Still, at the time I made the pick, there were rumblings about Mormons mostly voting for Johnson over Trump.

If he has the possibility (as slim as it is) of getting New Mexico, one has to wonder how much it'll affect the results elsewhere. Also, the last time we had a tie (or nobody getting the needed amount) was back in 1824, nearly 200 years ago. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_presidential_election,_1824

1824 really wouldn't be comparable to today if it happened this November, because of the gulf of time between them and the implied differences between then and now.

[mainiac]

The Johnson swell will probably only happen if Trump or Clinton falls apart.

[MetalSlimeHunt]

What're the odds I can get on a Jill presidency these days?

If Donald Trump, Hillary Clinton, Gary Johnson, Ted Cruz, Bernie Sanders, Mike Pence, and Tim Kaine all die the day before the election I give her 10%.

[Rolan7]

Yeah it'll probably default to Cruz- OH you thought of that!
Then uh... Rubio or Christie or Bush, I don't even know.  They didn't have a chance, they were up against The Joker Trump (and Carson, who actually makes a damn good Republican candidate in my opinion.  Fundamentalist yet learned.  Not enough energy, though.)

[MetalSlimeHunt]

(and Carson, who actually makes a damn good Republican candidate in my opinion.  Fundamentalist yet learned.  Not enough energy, though.)

The LUUUDDDES

Carson was an odd duck for me, since I actually have a personal thing against him, which is a weird feeling with him being in the debates and all.

[mainiac]

If they all die the day before election day then people just vote for Clinton and Trump anyway and then the electors decide what to do.

[MetalSlimeHunt]

Realistically, what's most likely is that Congress declares a state of emergency and invalidates the election (que domestic insurrection from Stein supporters and the most cultist of the dead candidates' supporters), leading to Paul Ryan more or less electing himself President. However, if that doesn't happen Stein might actually win, assuming 24 hours of panicked campaigning by every significant politician can't overwhelm the Greens. Thus, 10%.

EDIT: In fact, here's my full breakdown.

10% President Jill Stein
40% President Paul Ryan
30% Some other popular shlub does the 24-hour shuffle
5% Election stolen by rapidly assembled Elon Musk/Neil deGrass Tyson ticket, humanity saved
1% Total societal collapse, Russo-Chinese alliance restores order disguised as UN troops
14% OBAMARAMA THIRD TERM BABY, REV UP THOSE FEMA DEATH CAMPS BECAUSE I SURE AM SOCIALIST

[Rolan7]

Aw yiss, congress dissolves the presidency altogether.  The cabinet becomes assigned by congressional decision OH WAIT we basically DO THAT, de facto!  Blows my mind.
But in a good way because I'd rather be governed by a congress than a single person... generally.  Since a general (or even electoral college) elected dictator is too dangerous for real life.

Though I kinda wonder.  Maybe there is some transparent, non-idealist way to select a perfect executor from all the 318 million people in the USA.
I like to hope that that's what the NSA and FBI are working on.
I'm an optimist (:

but pls, Roman senate when??  this farce is getting out of control

[mainiac]

We already have an emergency method for if the presidential candidates die.  It's called the electoral college...

Democrats would fillibuster the shit out of any law suggesting suspending elections.  Joe Biden or Elizabeth Warren would beat the pants off Ryan or Cruz or Romney in this outlandish situation and democrats would know it.

[MetalSlimeHunt]

Realpolitik. Nobody actually respects what the electors think. It was one thing when the candidates were alive and the electors differed from the popular vote. In a situation like this they'll do what Congress tells them to do or they'll be replaced with someone who will.

If somebody not of The Breed wins the election on a disaster like this the Dems would 100% support suspending the election to restore order. Ryan is just first in line because he's the leader of the House and thus technically the one who's supposed to be installed, at least going by government tradition. They'd all want time to campaign.

[smjjames]

The Johnson swell will probably only happen if Trump or Clinton falls apart.

By normal standards, Trump's campaign has been falling apart almost constantly.

Aw yiss, congress dissolves the presidency altogether.  The cabinet becomes assigned by congressional decision OH WAIT we basically DO THAT, de facto!  Blows my mind.
But in a good way because I'd rather be governed by a congress than a single person... generally.  Since a general (or even electoral college) elected dictator is too dangerous for real life.

Though I kinda wonder.  Maybe there is some transparent, non-idealist way to select a perfect executor from all the 318 million people in the USA.
I like to hope that that's what the NSA and FBI are working on.
I'm an optimist (:

but pls, Roman senate when??  this farce is getting out of control

I get what you're saying about Generals, but we've had at least three Generals who got elected already, Washington, Ulysses S. Grant, and Eisenhower. Plenty of presidents had military experience of one sort or another.

Realpolitik. Nobody actually respects what the electors think. It was one thing when the candidates were alive and the electors differed from the popular vote. In a situation like this they'll do what Congress tells them to do or they'll be replaced with someone who will.

Or just follow historical examples, there have been a few cases where one of the candidates died before the electoral college. 19th century primarily. They were all people who hadn't recieved very many electoral votes however.