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[Dozebôm Lolumzalěs]

See OP.

The purpose of the thread is to discuss current developments.  Specific bugs should be reported on the bug tracker, and specific suggestions belong for the most part in the suggestion forum.  Questions and comments about the development page or DF development somewhat more broadly work here, though any contentious topics that lead to derails are discouraged -- there are threads for those too.

[Witty]

What exactly happens when our troops arrive at a site for a raid? I've had a few instances now where my troops will show up at a populated site to raid, only to report back that they couldn't find anything. What exactly are they looking for in a raid? Isn't it just a generic "kill some folks, steal stuff if you can" order?

[FantasticDorf]

What exactly happens when our troops arrive at a site for a raid? I've had a few instances now where my troops will show up at a populated site to raid, only to report back that they couldn't find anything. What exactly are they looking for in a raid? Isn't it just a generic "kill some folks, steal stuff if you can" order?

Toady at the current point hasn't put in any goods siezure to it, but has expressed interest at expanding it as per the possiblities. Its purely artifact related at the moment.

[Witty]

Its purely artifact related at the moment.

I'm confused then, since some raids seem to be successful in actually killing some of the inhabitants. Are any killings just an incidental result of them being spotted while sneaking for artifacts?

[Urlance Woolsbane]

I'm confused then, since some raids seem to be successful in actually killing some of the inhabitants. Are any killings just an incidental result of them being spotted while sneaking for artifacts?

Correct. The ideal result, from the game's perspective, is for your dwarves to sneak in and out undetected. That said, it seems like most of the functionality needed for proper pillaging is there, so hopefully someone will be able to rig something up with DFHack eventually.

[Random_Dragon]

Problem is I dunno if a skilled and geared squad is more likely to inflict kills. I think I might science up a raider embark dedicated to being able to sent a squad out ASAP.

[Urlance Woolsbane]

Problem is I dunno if a skilled and geared squad is more likely to inflict kills. I think I might science up a raider embark dedicated to being able to sent a squad out ASAP.

Toady claims that it should, with the caveat that it could well be broken.

[Random_Dragon]

So far I'm playing around with it. I sent a trio of peasants with no skills or gear and they scored 2-for-2. Then I outfitted a 5-bold squad with obsidian and leather, having started them with competent and average in most skills, AND assigned them half a dozen war animals. The end result was, well...they got one. And in exchange lost a coyote and two bolds.



EDIT: Vanilla testing now, with a 7-dwarf squad in full bronze, no skills. Sent them out after goblins and they can clean house up until they run into the demon running the place.

[FantasticDorf]

Size differences in worldgen battles was also made more to matter, so your kobolds may have well been handicapped by the start, still losing only two is promising that if they were taller they would have managed ok.

[Inarius]

I suppose there will be very soon a new FotF, but before this

For now, artifact are most of the time stored just after created, and never "used" again after, whatever they are. They can just be stolen, or passed over, or given. Is there any further plans for artifacts, as giving them a bigger role (like a legendary sword actually used to kill) or is it the way you have imagined it ?

[ZM5]

Artifacts are planned to eventually be magical, so I would imagine that they would get other, bigger roles as well.

[Untrustedlife]

Hey toady, update is pretty cool so far, but im wondering, is there a way to ask about an artifact im looking for, it doenst show up in asking for directions.And, what are your plans moving forward with artifacts?

[Shonai_Dweller]

Way back when work on this release started, you mentioned that worldgen moods might have a chance of failing, in the dramatic way they do in player fortresses. Did this make it into the release (yet)?

Haven't noticed anything while browsing Legends, but not sure what I'd be looking for. I've noticed some pretty difficult to get hold of materials are being used for artifacts, so I guess they have an easier time of it.

[Shonai_Dweller]

So, visitors are jumping the gun a little and turning up before you have a tavern/temple right now due to some bug or whatever. That's fine, and I guess you're working on a fix. But my question is, are the early monster slayers also part of this bug? I kind of like that they show up early. I can't imagine monster hunters requiring a room in a tavern before they march off happily into your caverns. Bunch of dwarves about to strike the earth? Can only result in the kind of Fun a monster slayer lives for!

[Random_Dragon]

It's suspected currently that these visitors are actually exclusively spies.