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[mainiac]

Why are people going "See, she's not a criminal, only really bad at her job" like its a good thing?

Literally find me a single example of anyone ever saying they approve of her being bad at her job.

If you think that other people have an absurd view, you probably dont understand their view.  Clinton was a secretary of state who oversaw the rehabilitation of the US after years of horrible diplomacy.  She was very good at her job.

[TheBiggerFish]

Dammit you people, CALM DOWN.

[RedKing]

Dammit you people, CALM DOWN.

I actually thought we were being remarkably chill. 

Why are people going "See, she's not a criminal, only really bad at her job" like its a good thing?

Literally find me a single example of anyone ever saying they approve of her being bad at her job.

If you think that other people have an absurd view, you probably dont understand their view.  Clinton was a secretary of state who oversaw the rehabilitation of the US after years of horrible diplomacy.  She was very good at her job.

Kissinger was a good SoS too. Doesn't mean I'd vote for him, or that he's anything other than a son of a bitch.

[Frumple]

... just to be sure RK, you're not actually trying insinuate that somewhat shoddy IT security is in any way equivalent to the shit Kissinger got up to, right?

E: Though just to clarify, I don't think you were... but you have worked IT, iirc, so... you might have.

[Loud Whispers]

It's on par with George Zimmerman and Trayvon Martin. "Well, we know you were armed and he wasn't, we know you initiated the altercation despite being told by a 911 dispatcher to stand down, we know you've made racist statements.....but we don't see any reason to find you guilty."

"Extremely careless but not indicted" isn't a great bumper sticker.

-We know Trayvon was on top of him smashing Zim's head into the pavement
-We know Zim did stand down and wait for police to arrive when Trayvon turned back to approach Zim
-We know Zim didn't make racist statements because those were edited by NBC in an "error" in which they "will be taking the necessary steps to prevent this from happening in the future and apologize to our viewers."
TOP KEK
That's not including when NBC edited in him saying fucking coons
NBC fired the editors 10/10

"But OW", they ask me, "how can you be opposed to national sovereignty?"

"This is why," I respond, pointing to Planet Earth, "and so we need to replace all the nations with a single team of unelected bureaucrats. Nothing could possibly go wrong."

* Loud Whispers oscillates like a Japanese honeybee when approached by hornets

I'm sorry, is the EU trying to arrest Cameron?  I'll sign a petition to oppose that if it's the case.

Their unit has served them faithfully, they would not arrest him for good loyalty

[mainiac]

I actually thought we were being remarkably chill. 

^^

Kissinger was a good SoS too. Doesn't mean I'd vote for him, or that he's anything other than a son of a bitch.

Well if you are into detente with China and bombing cambodia, does it really matter if he was a son of a bitch?  He is considered a son of a bitch for his foreign policy which you seem to like.

[RedKing]

I actually thought we were being remarkably chill. 

^^

Kissinger was a good SoS too. Doesn't mean I'd vote for him, or that he's anything other than a son of a bitch.

Well if you are into detente with China and bombing cambodia, does it really matter if he was a son of a bitch?  He is considered a son of a bitch for his foreign policy which you seem to like.

Detente with China was a sound strategic move, and profoundly changed the geopolitical landscape vis-a-vis the Soviet Union.
Cambodia would be part of the "son of a bitch" portion I was talking about.

Also, LW shouldn't you be busy telling Poles to go fuck themselves or something?

[mainiac]

Sorry, what was the point of the Kissenger thing?

[Loud Whispers]

Also, LW shouldn't you be busy telling Poles to go fuck themselves or something?

No, Poles deserve utmost politeness

[TempAcc]

All I got from Comey's speech was "this is rly srs guyse if anyone else did this shit would go down but its hillary so it isn't lol".

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[mainiac]

All I got from Comey's speech was "this is rly srs guyse if anyone else did this shit would go down but its hillary so it isn't lol".

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

"Although there is evidence of potential violations of the statutes regarding the handling of classified information, our judgment is that no reasonable prosecutor would bring such a case"

It seems what you got was what you wanted to hear, not what was actually said.

[TempAcc]

110 emails with classified info leaked by the secretary of state into a non government controlled server.

The goddamn then secretary of state was (at the very least) "extremely careless", but this is somehow totally not a serious issue, have fun running for president of the US.

"No reasonable prosecutor would bring such a case", rofl.

[mainiac]

"No reasonable prosecutor would bring such a case", rofl.

So in other word, you think it's absurd that an expert who has gone over these facts closely would know more then you.

It's not surprising you would think that as you believe false information.  (Read the post closely and try to find it!)

[TempAcc]

Hey, by these standards, I could easily become secretary of state and send nudes to putin's computer and everything would be A-OK :v

[mainiac]

Hey, by these standards, I could easily become secretary of state and send nudes to putin's computer and everything would be A-OK :v

Sure, just toss in a name that automatically allows you to open doors for US diplomatic efforts worldwide and a proven commitment to administration foreign policy objectives.

BTW, the mistake you made was in saying "leak".  A leak of over 100 classified documents would be a very serious matter and certainly would have lead to an indictment.