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[hector13]

Dustan

hector: why VOTE UP TBF on day one? You did not even ask them a question. You just called them scum as soon as the game had started.

I did.

I really want to pull a roo here, but I couldn't do it justice.

To respond: consider what part of the game it is, and conclude accordingly. Also could suggest there's some buddying and/or chainsawing going on.

I might also like to ask how I'm not asking questions to TBF, considering I've asked a few questions of him already. Including this one:

TBF

So that if something comes up that you can look at and verify through flavor, you can actually do that?

You have a few games under your belt, how many times has game flavour lead you to scum (or town, as it happens)?

[Dustan Hache]

Unvote.
Frankly we have too little to go on to start calling people scum right off the bad. Reflex is to call you a executioner/mafiascum and lynch, but I have a suspicion that (unless moderator comes out with info that third parties exist) you are a town. Just.. Try to find some evidence before tossing votes please.

[TheBiggerFish]

At least once, if I recall correctly.

[hector13]

Unvote.
Frankly we have too little to go on to start calling people scum right off the bad. Reflex is to call you a executioner/mafiascum and lynch, but I have a suspicion that (unless moderator comes out with info that third parties exist) you are a town. Just.. Try to find some evidence before tossing votes please.

Well... no. This is my vote, I'll use it how I like, tyvm.

[TheBiggerFish]

Can you explain why you're using it?

[hector13]

It is called the Random Voting Stage.

[TheBiggerFish]

Players:
-TheDarkStar
-hector13
-Griffinpup
-BlackHeartKabal
-fillipk
-Dustan Hache
-Tiruin
-juicebox
-Teneb
-FallacyofUrist
-TheBiggerFish

1d10 [2]
hector

How is this actually helping any?  You're not even doing a half-decent job at following up on it with actual questions.  RVS isn't any good if you don't do anything with it.

[hector13]

1. How is choosing someone literally at random better than what I did, which was vote you because you did something I thought was shady?

2. There's a 1 in 10 chance that a random dice-roll would've hit me, so there's a 90% chance that's an OMGUS.

3. We're hours into D1. How much follow up are you expecting? Not everyone has even posted yet, brah...


You've asked few questions yourself and you're also indulging in behaviour you're using as a justification for voting someone, specifically random voting. Why should anyone take you seriously right now?

If you'd like to know what I've contributed so far, we know how you've reacted to a vote, and Dustan may or may not have leapt to your defense as a result, plus miscellaneous things about other players that may or may not prove useful later.

You know how I play the game better than most, given we've completed 14 rounds in Mafia Marathon. Do you honestly see anything different in how I'm doing things here?

If so, what, and why is that suspicious?

[juicebox]

TBF: obvscum

PPE: Planning on fooling is with flavour interpretation?

FoU: Are you the Clone Lord again?

TDS and Tiruin: Of all the players in the game, who are you most and least worried about?

Griffinpup: What would you consider a good RVS question and why?

BHK: Do you expect the day phase or the night phase to be more influential in the outcome of this game?

Teneb: What sort of things are you looking for from a town player in this game?

fillipk: You are casting the deciding vote between two players for the lynch. One is confirmed neutral, and the other is suspected scum. Who do you lynch and why?

Dustan Hache: If you were a jailor, would you prefer to use your role to block someone or protect them?

juicebox: Welcome! Have an FoS.

An FoS? Already? But I didn't do anything, how can I look scummy when I haven't even done anything? Oh my gosh I'm horrible at this game



Ok, now that I got that out of my system

juicebox: Are you going to be more passive in this game since you're new?

No, I plan on being as active as possible this game

BHK/Dustan: Do you think flavor will be important to this game?

Tiruin: As rolecop, how would you decide who to inspect?

TBF: How do you incorporate flavor into scumhunting?

[juicebox]

@mod: Oh no, it's Team Rocket!

[TheBiggerFish]

@hector:Voting reasons are not 'random' or 'OMGUS' only, dude.  I'm kind of suspicious of you right now.

And yes, I saw something different: You randomvoting with no immediate followup.  That's not something I've generally noticed you doing in MM, regardless of whether you actually did it or not.  For that matter, you randomvoting in general I haven't seen a lot of.  That might've been because we had N0 to go on in MM, but still.

Why should anyone take me seriously?  Why should anyone take anyone seriously?  This is Mafia, we're supposed to be paranoid.

You know my behavior.  What's different or wrong about that?

@juicebox:Compare facts against roles, compare roles against actions, compare themes against claims.  Probably going to be harder here because we don't know the original makeup of the team, nor is there an overarching thematic element in evidence, but, it's not impossible.

[BlackHeartKabal]

juicebox: Are you going to be more passive in this game since you're new?

No, I plan on being as active as possible this game

BHK/Dustan: Do you think flavor will be important to this game?

I'm already certain it is.

How are you going to be "active"?

[hector13]

TBF: What do you mean "no immediate follow up"?

My votes aren't really random, ever, and I do like to use it to put pressure on people, particularly in the earlier stages of the game.

That's what this started out as: your first thing to do was ask about flavour, and not engage any of the players in the game. This bothered me, so I poked about it a little, and then you got a little mad about it. I'm not sure why, nor what to think about it. I do know that your reaction has been very strong for what was a D1 RVS pressure vote, which is why it's still on you and not Dustan.

I guess speaking of which:

Dustan: how much experience of forum Mafia do you have in general, and on B12 specifically? Your little... I don't know, analysis? of my vote bothers me, especially since you told me how I should use it.

BHK

BHK/Dustan: Do you think flavor will be important to this game?

I'm already certain it is.

Could you expand on this please? Just a general feeling or something more specific?

[TheBiggerFish]

TBF: obvscum

[juicebox]

juicebox: Are you going to be more passive in this game since you're new?

No, I plan on being as active as possible this game

BHK/Dustan: Do you think flavor will be important to this game?

I'm already certain it is.

How are you going to be "active"?

I plan on doing some good ol' scumhunting