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Author Topic: A vile force of darkness has arrived... and then prompltly left  (Read 2055 times)

levraininjaneer

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Hi!

My militia stormed the undead mob (50 odd) and was victorious, while being reduced from about 30 to 20 well-to-mediocre trained iron-equipped soldiers. Then I get the message "A vile force of darkness has arrived."

I have a look: I can only see 4 or 5 goblins. Hmmm. Maybe more will arrive on the unpause. Well, let's bring the soldiers up.

I unpause and wait for my soldiers to assemble at the front entrance. OK, they're mostly all there. Let's engage these... wait. Where are they? This is a... no. Even the *SIEGE* flag is gone. A moment later a Goblin Snatcher appears... right in front of the assembled troops and he is promptly pincusioned and pulped. And that's it.

Did the goblins calculate their odds and decide to flee (the same as when you kill off "enough" of a siege)?
Did they maybe see some of what was left of the undead mob and all got frightened and left?

Anyone else seen this?
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Re: A vile force of darkness has arrived... and then prompltly left
« Reply #1 on: May 23, 2016, 01:52:33 am »

Those forces may have been on the march to a different site, and happened to path through one of your embark tiles, I'm pretty certain I've seen some other reports of this kind of activity.

It is a little unusual, but seems like a completely reasonable consequence of armies having to actually travel to their destinations in the recent versions.
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Shonai_Dweller

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Re: A vile force of darkness has arrived... and then prompltly left
« Reply #2 on: May 23, 2016, 03:15:50 am »

Alternatively they may be soldiers accompanying a snatcher/thief accidentally triggering the siege alert (presumably a bug). If you have a lot of dorfs outside, you can often uncover a hidden snatcher (as it seems you did) at around the same time as one of these odd 'hello-goodbye' siege alerts.

One thing it's not is a goblin siege. They won't turn up at your current population unless you've tweaked their settings (undead will turn up whenever they feel like it regardless of population/wealth).
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levraininjaneer

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Re: A vile force of darkness has arrived... and then prompltly left
« Reply #3 on: May 23, 2016, 04:06:16 am »

Nono, I did have the minimun 80 population to trigger a potential siege: the numbers I was mentioning was my militia only.
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Re: A vile force of darkness has arrived... and then prompltly left
« Reply #4 on: May 23, 2016, 05:33:37 am »

These hello/good bye sieges appeared with 0.42.X and can appear both before and after the siege trigger has been reached.
As far as I know their cause is unknown. I've examined legends info for one fortress that was subjected to these, and all of those sieges were actually targeted at my fortress, reducing the strength of the "on the way elsewhere" theory. In my case the site sending these sieges were actually under control of the attacker only for the first "siege", then taken over by another goblin civ (still issuing "sieges" from the original attacker), and then under control of no civ at all, while the attacking civ still sending "sieges", but having failed (no members left). The siege sending site never had many inhabitants, and they were depleted, rebuilt over 70 years, and sent two actual sieges (of recruits), again depleting the site pop to 6.

Edit: I've had a goblin snatcher combine with a hello/good bye siege as well.
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Re: A vile force of darkness has arrived... and then prompltly left
« Reply #5 on: May 23, 2016, 07:58:32 am »

Edit: I've had a goblin snatcher combine with a hello/good bye siege as well.

I've had a tower siege where the main body immediately left but a single necro stayed.
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levraininjaneer

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Re: A vile force of darkness has arrived... and then prompltly left
« Reply #6 on: May 23, 2016, 09:31:26 am »

:) hah! Pauvvre Necro!
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Re: A vile force of darkness has arrived... and then prompltly left
« Reply #7 on: May 23, 2016, 10:22:38 am »

Huh.
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Re: A vile force of darkness has arrived... and then prompltly left
« Reply #8 on: July 09, 2016, 01:19:37 pm »

One time I got 5 of these at once.... nothing happened and I didn't even know I had five untill I looked into the announcments thing