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Nicoliver

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New Sites- International Sites
« on: May 09, 2016, 03:12:51 pm »

Colleges, University, Academy A site which is not aligned with any specific faction. A College may emerge after some time in the World, and generally takes the name of some nearby settlement. After a time, emissaries from the College will ask you to provide Scholars for then. Scholars who go to University may get further levels on skills and even some knowledge they couldn´t find home, and also some aleatory effects. Skilled Scholars may compete for Degrees in the University, which will make them even more skilled at the cost of some animosity with the people/factions they best at the competition. A Degree-holding Scholar may host or participate in Symposiums which are fame-boosting for your civilization. When a cluster of Colleges form around a place, they may become a University, almost a town by itself. Presence in Colleges and Universities may allow Student Exchanges, where members of other civilized races stay at the fortress during a given period of time. A massive University would be dubbed an Academy.

Stadiums, Arenas and Colliseums 
Built nominally by some faction, Stadiums would allow competitions between teams of two civilizations, or individuals from many ones in non-fighting sports. Carnivals allow the same, but for Performers. Arenas are for fighters. A complex of Stadium, Arena and Carnival would be dubbed a Collisseum, allowing all types of competition at once. An even more massive Colisseum would be an Circus.

Advanced Post, Garrison , Hegemony A fortress manned by one or more civs, generally against another civ or for civilizing a dangerous place. A present site of this type will make the place less savage within time, if not getting destroyed by the locals or abandoned. A source of some commerce when manned, and raw materials when abbandoned. Some commerce routes will pass by them. A player can be asked to send soldiers for a friendly garrison as part of an alliance, and also can ask allies to do the same for a garrison he owns. A post can grow in importance not just by the size of its garrison, but also the presence of diplomats and nobles in it. A Garrison becomes an Hegemony when one civ predominates on it, evolving in a fortified city controlled by it if not contested. A civ which sucessfully achieves many hegemonic encroachments against other ones, may become an Empire capable of fielding multi-national, multi-racial forces.

Archology or Landmark An mega-project build by an civ or group of friendly civs using common resources. The Landmark will be an Historical event with great effects in the building civs as well in the world.

Volunteer Camps Can be used by civs to provide manpower for Landmarks. Volunteers are people captured by civs in wars or outrightly bought up from raiders or kidnapped. Volunteer camps are a source of disease and criminality, as they will produce raiders who will try to snatch your citizens or passing caravans in volunteering. Also, there will appear from time to time volunteer refugees asking shelter, and volunteer foremen looking for the escaped, both through bounties and through salvage raids. As the ages progresses, use of volunteers or participation in their trade becomes more and more stigmatized, and will considered a sign of evil civs. At a cost, however, is possible to send problematic nobles, scholars and justice offenders to Character Building Camps, private institutions where they work raw resources until becoming literally new persons.
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Re: New Sites- International Sites
« Reply #1 on: May 10, 2016, 09:33:59 pm »

I do like the ideas of having Universities like that.

I do feel like they would make more sence as institutions which still belonged to Civ though - universities can't really exist outside of nations to support them. (Besides - there would be so much potential for political issues to exist which could be fun.)
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« Reply #2 on: May 10, 2016, 09:44:05 pm »

Somewhat off the top of my head, so of lesser quality/detail/ than most of my suggestions:

Universities might be more progressive or willing to argue against authority than the rest. Dissension between government and university? Perhaps also include government support of universities, but with the cost of "they get to say what to study, and censor your revolutionary speeches."

Ignore this if you don't like it, it's just a thought.
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« Reply #3 on: May 11, 2016, 01:06:22 am »

I think that they should be programmed like Civs in themselves. They would appear near Civs after a certain tech level, with a population composed by the predominant Civ in its region.

But they wouldn´t participate in wars directly, just be a place of intrigue were Civs would try to gouge prestige and intelligence out of each other without going on formal wars.

Two mutually hostile Civs should, for example, send their Academics, Performers and Athetles to compete in the Colleges, Stadiums and Arenas.

The loser would end letting itself being incorporated in the winner´s sphere of influence without a war, leading to the formation of factual empires.
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« Reply #4 on: May 11, 2016, 01:07:23 am »

I had this idea based on the Zeus and Poseidon games.
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« Reply #5 on: May 11, 2016, 01:42:07 am »

Who would build them though? Where does the money and labour come from?
DF is a living universe, buildings don't just magic themselves into existence.

I guess medieval universities were kind of like guilds, right? So perhaps, when guilds have been added as planned, powerful guilds members from various civs would come together to pool resources and build independent institutions. Like towers, but a group effort.

Of course, libraries right now are pretty much open to anyone regardless of where they are. That could change when politics are implemented I suppose.
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« Reply #6 on: May 11, 2016, 05:54:28 am »

Two mutually hostile Civs should, for example, send their Academics, Performers and Athetles to compete in the Colleges, Stadiums and Arenas.

The loser would end letting itself being incorporated in the winner´s sphere of influence without a war, leading to the formation of factual empires.

But why?

This is basically a bit like how no Universities have worked ever. Athletes I can see choosing to travel to other Civ's to compete?

But Universities would essentially just be exactly like the Guild's system, like Shonai_Dweller says. 'University' would just be a reasonably thematic re-name of "Scholar's Guild".
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« Reply #7 on: May 11, 2016, 10:09:26 pm »

The possibilities, imagine there was university towns, and all of a sudden the chief dean decides to abandon the kingdom. He fights the king wins, and creates philosophers state... The introduction of guilds should make such stories possible!!!
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