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Re: Titans are Immortal
« Reply #15 on: April 23, 2016, 01:40:08 am »

Much support for all of this, thematically and mechanically  :)
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« Reply #16 on: May 04, 2016, 06:17:10 pm »

Titans seem to be the symbolic guardians and manifestation of the untamed natural world, so it would make sense for them to be associated with the savagery of the surrounding lands.

They can attack settlements that encroach on their territory and, if killed, could regenerate, but only if the land remains 'untamed' - building new villages over their land should prevent their regeneration.  The conflict between titans and civilization could be symbolic of the conflict between civilization and 'the wild'.

That's a good compromise
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« Reply #17 on: May 04, 2016, 08:56:09 pm »

But how would one determine the level of civilization in an area?

It's quite possible, but things like that should be part of the refining of a suggestion.

I think that the level and population of cities, and the untouched/recovered wilderness, together with an inherent "wildness" (resistance to encroachment), could determine the amount of civilization and wilderness in a region. The average of all wildernesses' wilderness or wildness minus civilization could be applied to the titan, so its strength, speed, toughness would go down as more trees are felled and more cities built.
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« Reply #18 on: May 05, 2016, 08:36:45 pm »

If Titans were to be turned into guardian deities of the land, what about the elves? Don't they worship exacly that?
If elves started invading riding giant forest titans and bringing megabeast pets I'd definitely have a little bit more respect for them.

This is really cool tho. Right now, Titans really are just big critters with special abilities. Making them more connected to the world and giving actual reasons for their existence would definitely make them appearing both more worrisome and important. Also maybe making them not always angry murder-crazy maniacs too.

Their appearence should somewhat mirror the general area also. Having giant slugs made out of smoke as the physical manifestation of the plains doesn't make much sense. Maybe they could be based around animals from the region + the whole sphere thing, with areas associated with death having more deathly looking landscape (grayish grass, purplish sky, lot's of mist, more dead trees with distorted face-like trunks, etc) and a deathly looking skeletal Titan protecting it.
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« Reply #19 on: May 06, 2016, 01:05:07 pm »

If Titans were to be turned into guardian deities of the land, what about the elves? Don't they worship exacly that?
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Eh, not necessarily. Depending on how the cosmology looks from world to world, titans could be interpreted as mere "incarnations" of a natural force rather than the entirety of the force itself. A lot of pantheisms have similar ideas, like the Egyptian Pharaoh being an incarnation of Osirus or all of Hinduism's thousands of gods being the expressions of Brahman.
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Re: Titans are Immortal
« Reply #20 on: May 06, 2016, 10:56:48 pm »

areas associated with death having more deathly looking landscape (grayish grass, purplish sky, lot's of mist, more dead trees with distorted face-like trunks, etc)

You basically just recreated evil biomes.
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« Reply #21 on: May 07, 2016, 08:26:40 am »

areas associated with death having more deathly looking landscape (grayish grass, purplish sky, lot's of mist, more dead trees with distorted face-like trunks, etc)

You basically just recreated evil biomes.
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Re: Titans are Immortal
« Reply #22 on: May 07, 2016, 12:52:40 pm »

I love this idea, both the OP and the ensuing discussion.

I feel like it would add a huge amount of flavor to the world. Imagine a demon or titan that reincarnates and tries to conquer the same civ every hundred years or so.

Also with the elf idea, Titans could take over an elven civ the same way demons take over goblin civs. That would make them an actual threat rather than an amusingly frail source of annoyance.
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Re: Titans are Immortal
« Reply #23 on: May 09, 2016, 02:49:37 am »

Actually, I wonder if goblin leaders even deserve spoiler tags, since they are, you know, revealed at the start of gameplay if you just ask someone in Adventure Mode, and the new myth generation will outright tell you these things at the start of worldgen. It's probably just the candy and HFS that deserve spoilers and not the special sub-race of goblin leaders.

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