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Lordhermitcrab

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Ä in fort, apparently citizen. Explanation?
« on: February 28, 2016, 12:28:18 pm »

I have no pictures of this occurrence, but one time when playing in a short-lived fortress, among the early immigrants, I received an apparent citizen, whose symbol (like, dwarves are smiley faces, that "symbol") was a yellow Ä.

That's all I remember. I remember it did stuff like hauling and such.

Anyone have any similar experiences? What exactly was it?
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Re: Ä in fort, apparently citizen. Explanation?
« Reply #1 on: February 28, 2016, 01:14:22 pm »

The Ä symbol represents something... spoilerific. Having one in your fortress randomly would be quite unusual to say the least.

What caused the fortress to be short-lived, if you don't mind my asking? And which version of the game was this?
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Re: Ä in fort, apparently citizen. Explanation?
« Reply #2 on: February 28, 2016, 01:16:00 pm »

An Ä means a spoiler creature according to the wiki. Did you have modded raws? It could also be a human/goblin/treefondler elf that signed a petition to stay in your fort. (Happens if you have a Tavern. It occurs randomly from any visitor. You do get the final say though in that.)
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Re: Ä in fort, apparently citizen. Explanation?
« Reply #3 on: February 28, 2016, 01:19:03 pm »

It could also be a human/goblin/treefondler elf that signed a petition to stay in your fort.
That wouldn't turn it into an Ä. It would remain a U,g,or e after becoming a citizen. (Also, that's a recent addition, and this sounds like it happened a while ago.) I second the question about modded raws.

Do you still have the save? An Ä arriving with a wave of migrants is definitely something worth investigating legends for.
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Re: Ä in fort, apparently citizen. Explanation?
« Reply #4 on: February 28, 2016, 01:23:19 pm »

Short-lived because I started it in the middle of my HS biology class and gave up when the class ended.

Plus, the FPS instantly went to crap because I was playing on a school laptop.

Also it ended up going bad. I think some sort of animal came round and I beat the crap out of it. I remember there being much blood on the outside snow.
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Re: Ä in fort, apparently citizen. Explanation?
« Reply #5 on: February 28, 2016, 01:24:25 pm »

I don't have a save, or any evidence for this occurrence. Sure I may not sound very credible here but take this all hypothetically.

This was v.34.11.
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Re: Ä in fort, apparently citizen. Explanation?
« Reply #6 on: February 28, 2016, 01:28:18 pm »

Too bad, there's no way of knowing why it was there without digging through Legends mode, and now you have me curious as to how the heck you ended up with an angelic vault guardian as a member of your civ.
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Re: Ä in fort, apparently citizen. Explanation?
« Reply #7 on: February 28, 2016, 01:36:12 pm »

I swear I remember a screenshot of this somewhere. I'm going to plow through my computer and wrack my memory to find it.
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Re: Ä in fort, apparently citizen. Explanation?
« Reply #8 on: February 28, 2016, 01:41:50 pm »

I swear I remember a screenshot of this somewhere. I'm going to plow through my computer and wrack my memory to find it.

It's an unusual enough occurrence that no one will be able to give an off-the shelf reason why it was there. There is no generic answer along the lines of "oh yeah, sometimes you can end up with an angelic vault-gaurdian appearing with a wave of migrants if....".

Sounds like there was a really interesting story buried in Legends mode. Alas, you'd need the actual save -- or the legends mode export files ... to find it. Long shot, but at any point did you open Legends mode and export the XML, and still have a copy?
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Re: Ä in fort, apparently citizen. Explanation?
« Reply #9 on: February 28, 2016, 01:46:47 pm »

No, sorry. This was long before I was more "verbal" with how DF files worked and such.
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Re: Ä in fort, apparently citizen. Explanation?
« Reply #10 on: February 28, 2016, 02:31:02 pm »

Spoiler (click to show/hide)
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Re: Ä in fort, apparently citizen. Explanation?
« Reply #11 on: February 28, 2016, 04:20:58 pm »

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Deity's are represented with Å, not Ä. Also, demons are &.
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Re: Ä in fort, apparently citizen. Explanation?
« Reply #12 on: February 28, 2016, 04:23:16 pm »

I hadn't realized that, but looking back, you're right! You learn something new every day, eh?

That said, is it possible that Lordhermitcrab mixed up the two symbols as well?
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Re: Ä in fort, apparently citizen. Explanation?
« Reply #13 on: February 28, 2016, 05:37:57 pm »

It's very possible I mixed up the actual A cymbal. It's been more than a year, but both the umlaut and the circle-thing kinda ring a bell.
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