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[darkflagrance]

If you've ever been attacked by humans on horseback, you may have noticed they tend to run away from your soldiers or even civilians because their horses are afraid of you and were never trained for battle. I'm trying to come up with a way to make human horses reliable mounts while not making your own horses bloodless killing machines. I've come up with this syndrome that humans should hopefully attempt to apply immediately to their mounts:

Add this to interactions_standard or a new interactions file

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[INTERACTION:SPURRING]
[I_SOURCE:CREATURE_ACTION]
[I_TARGET:A:CREATURE]
[IT_LOCATION:CONTEXT_CREATURE]
[IT_FORBIDDEN:CAN_LEARN]
[I_EFFECT:ADD_SYNDROME]
[IE_TARGET:A]
[IE_IMMEDIATE]
[SYNDROME]
[CE_ADD_TAG:NOFEAR:START:0]
Then add this to humans:

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[CAN_DO_INTERACTION:SPURRING]
[CDI:ADV_NAME:Spur]
[CDI:USAGE_HINT:GREETING]
[CDI:BP_REQUIRED:BY_CATEGORY:HEAD]
[CDI:VERB:spur:spurs:spurs]
[CDI:TARGET:A:TOUCHABLE]
[CDI:TARGET_RANGE:A:1]
[CDI:MAX_TARGET_NUMBER:A:10]
[CDI:WAIT_PERIOD:0]
Am I missing something obvious before I try to get the humans to attack me for the next three hours?

[Bearskie]

You forgot it_manual_input.

[Rydel]

I think greetings aren't getting applied properly with the new job system, so I don't know if they will actually use the interaction.

[IndigoFenix]

They should still use it in combat.

NOFEAR might not work though, especially if the horses are already spooked.  Try adjusting their personality facets like BRAVERY, THOUGHTLESSNESS, CONFIDENCE, and others of the sort.  Maybe VIOLENT for good measure.  (Note: you will have to increase it much more than alcohol does to take effect)

[Teneb]

Would having horses and other mounts having natural first-level discipline be enough?

[darkflagrance]

Would having horses and other mounts having natural first-level discipline be enough?

I'm specifically looking for a solution that doesn't require the altering of the raws for horses. I'm hoping I can allow only certain races access to "war" horses.

[Button]

Do you want only specific civs to have access to war horses, or do you want all civs except your own to have access to war horses?

If the latter, I recommend that you modify the horse etc. raws to "war horse" level, and give all species of grass a permanent syndrome that counteracts your changes (when eaten by horses, specifically, so you don't get weirdly scared elephants or something).

In fort mode only player-owned creatures actually eat - with the exception of bloodsuckers - so this would have the effect of making your own horses much weaker than invaders' horses.

[darkflagrance]

Do you want only specific civs to have access to war horses, or do you want all civs except your own to have access to war horses?

If the latter, I recommend that you modify the horse etc. raws to "war horse" level, and give all species of grass a permanent syndrome that counteracts your changes (when eaten by horses, specifically, so you don't get weirdly scared elephants or something).

In fort mode only player-owned creatures actually eat - with the exception of bloodsuckers - so this would have the effect of making your own horses much weaker than invaders' horses.

I actually wanted to make a mod that can be patched over vanilla that doesn't alter the base raws of horses but allows them to be used as war horses by new races. The concept behind the syndrome fix is to have it apply to any otherwise cowardly creature that might inadvertently be brought as part of a siege, such as cats or camels. So far it seems to have worked: the latest siege saw camels joining the enemy footmen in charging into my lines.

I don't know if camels run normally though.