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[Urist McCoder]

So over the weekend, I was given a copy of the Elder Scrolls Online my a family member. They didn't play anymore so they were giving it to someone who would. So after installing the game for 16 hours and fixing an error an error that prevented it from launching I come to discover that the pc copy cannot be resold or even regifted because it needs a one time use cd key. So you know you can never resell it ever for any reason, I now hate Bethesda.

[Teneb]

So over the weekend, I was given a copy of the Elder Scrolls Online my a family member. They didn't play anymore so they were giving it to someone who would. So after installing the game for 16 hours and fixing an error an error that prevented it from launching I come to discover that the pc copy cannot be resold or even regifted because it needs a one time use cd key. So you know you can never resell it ever for any reason, I now hate Bethesda.

So, you hate a company that is not involved in making a game, because all MMOs (I've yet to see an exception) require accounts to which the serial keys are bound. Okay.

The painfully obvious solution is to ask said family member for the account.

[Urist McCoder]

what do you mean not involved in making the game Bethesda owns the elder scrolls. also the xbox/playstation versions do not require a key.

[Teneb]

what do you mean not involved in making the game Bethesda owns the elder scrolls.

Bethesda makes the TES singe-player games. Zenimax, their parent company, owns the rights. Zenimax Online (not to be confused with the previous Zenimax, though also owned by them) made ESO.

[Urist McCoder]

Well that explains alot.

[BFEL]

The painfully obvious solution is to ask said family member for the account.

[scriver]

Zenimax pretty much is Bethesda, though. It was created by Beth for the purpose of umbrelling other ventures. So in a way Zenimax Softworks is actually Bethesda's daughter company, Zenimax Online their granddaughter, and I guess Bethesda themselves have been put in a home?

The painfully obvious solution is to ask said family member for the account.

Also this.

[Dorsidwarf]

The painfully obvious solution is to ask said family member for the account.

Pretty sure he said that the game installation wants a one-time CD key, not that the login wants a CD key.

[Urist McCoder]

it's the login, I just don't want to ask because it was given to me along with like 15 computers and a bunch of parts. I just wanted to rant about it.

[Cthulhu]

If it's any consolation, ESO's not good.

[Zangi]

I'm pretty sure this is how most 'modern' MMOs work.  The game/client/disc = 1 account...  But then, I havn't touched another MMO since ArcheAge.

[Arbinire]

Yes, all MMO's require that you tie your CD key to your account, unless it's a direct download/f2p game.  If the person you received it from no longer plays then it should be no problem to get their account info as well(though generally there are clauses against account selling and account sharing so I wouldn't be too vocal about it).

As to ESO itself, it's neither really a good or a bad game....it's just the development team doesn't seem to really play or understand their own game and make these large sweeping changes every patch that forces pretty much every class beside Nightblades to have to learn how to play their class all over again.  They really need to fire or demote Eric Wrobel and crawl on hands and knees over to Riot Games and beg Nick Konkle to come back cause that guy clearly understood what he was doing in a long term sense.

[Urist McCoder]

what really offends me is that the xbox and playstation copies don't need a key just put the disc in and play.

[lordcooper]

That's because it's a fair bit harder to pirate console games.  On PC you'd just be able to download a torrent and then play on their servers if there wasn't any form of DRM.  A key is the least intrusive way of doing this.

Welcome to the 21st century, I guess.

[EuchreJack]

That's because it's a fair bit harder to pirate console games.  On PC you'd just be able to download a torrent and then play on their servers if there wasn't any form of DRM.  A key is the least intrusive way of doing this.

Welcome to the 21st century, I guess.

Indeed.  I would hardly claim Bethesda is alone in this practice, although I do miss the old "put in the CD and play" system of gaming.

By the way, isn't the Key on the packaging for the game somewhere?  That is where all my CD keys are located.  On the disc itself, the manual, the case, or occasionally on a little note stuffed in the box.  I seem to recall this one time there was a box inside a box, and the key was written on the inside box (Diablo 2 maybe?).

So, you might very well have the key floating around in that pile of stuff you got.