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[FallacyofUrist]

Anyone have anything stolen or removed?

Nope.
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So. New "information":
One player deals 2 damage with his/her vote.

I tried to check where you were, last night, but what I saw was... me.

Someone's some kind of doppleganger?
~~~

[hector13]

@Hector: Thaaaaat's right. Why don't you tell everyone?

Tell everyone what?

I'm trying to deduce who voted for TBF. If they're telling the truth, they're one vote away from death, and only one person vote them. You and I have claimed special roles, so I'd imagine that, in order to have some semblance of balance, the Evil role does double damage. Important to get them removed from the game, no?

I know who I voted for, and I know who voted for me (lucky I can defend myself...) so that leaves two people who could have voted TBF, unless for some inexplicable reason TBF voted himself.

I suspect FoU may be lying about his inability to vote. Why would there be a hippy in space..? So... if Starver voted someone, and that someone can confirm, we've likely caught FoU in a gr8 bihg lye.

[FallacyofUrist]

Le humph.
I'm not a hippy, I'm a pacifist.
They're one and the same, though, really... 
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[hector13]

Le humph.
I'm not a hippy, I'm a pacifist.
They're one and the same, though, really... 
~~~

Mmm... no, no they're not.

[Starver]

Who did you vote for?

You mean in that last hour of the scheduled day when... oh wait...

However, I'll tell you now that I was toying with one or other of the Special-claimants (i.e. you and Moonlit), because I was more concerned about two Specials being claimed than two Weaks being claimed (although that would always be my second line of enquiry).  I had mostly leant towards Moonlit because of the "I'm not a Weak, but..." start to the claim, and then with the Politician claim (bah!  who needs politicians to survive, out of all humanity, two-faced lying lizard of humanity, eh?) with the weird delayed-protection thing, but your badgering me for details set me about wondering if I ought to Playback your actions.

But all I got was confused.  So I told it straight, and maybe somebody out there can make more sense out of it than I so far have, because someone else has a key to this that I do not yet have.

[hector13]

That was long-form for "I'm not going to answer your question", then?

Why must you all make this so bloody difficult?

[Starver]

That was long-form for "I'm not going to answer your question", then?

I've answered your questions and them some.  I'm still not sure I can trust you, but everything that you want everyone to know (except whether it was Moonlit who apparently ineffectually attacked you, or not, which I can't say for sure but seems to be the logical solution to the information you kept back) is now out in the open, and ready for everyone to assimilate into their own world-views to work out if there are any obvious lies they can point out.

[TheBiggerFish]

Fallacy, you are pushing all the suspicion buttons right now.

[hector13]

That was long-form for "I'm not going to answer your question", then?

I've answered your questions and them some.  I'm still not sure I can trust you, but everything that you want everyone to know (except whether it was Moonlit who apparently ineffectually attacked you, or not, which I can't say for sure but seems to be the logical solution to the information you kept back) is now out in the open, and ready for everyone to assimilate into their own world-views to work out if there are any obvious lies they can point out.

Well yeah, Moonlit voted for me. I can tell you who I voted for, but I don't think they would appreciate that. If they want to share though... well, that's up to them.

You shouldn't be sure about anyone at this point, but I think there's enough to have some inkling of people's alignment. It's up to you to confirm or reject those inklings, though.

Anyway, you didn't say who you voted for, which is the question I asked. As with my own vote, it's perhaps up to the person who was voted to reveal that... Unless you're trying to blame me for you not voting anyone over the 48 hours of D1.

[hector13]

Fallacy, you are pushing all the suspicion buttons right now.

Probably shoulda done a PPE, but I'll +1 the sentiment anyway.

[Starver]

Unless you're trying to blame me for you not voting anyone over the 48 hours of D1.

Nothing to do with you, no.

Spoiler: Irrelevant detail (click to show/hide)

I used to deal with transatlantic people (and elsewhere!) a lot in an old job, but I always needed to be reminded whether spring or autumn clock-shift happened on a different date from our own (or actively needed reassurance that on this occasion it didn't!), so that I could work out when it was 5/8 hours difference and when it was 4/7 hours difference (for us, or them, to adjust against!) for global teleconferences (which the Japanese rarely even tried to attend!) or even just to know whether to half-expect someone to answer their phone if I called or quickly respond to an email if that was deemed urgent... And I hadn't even realised we were close to our own clock-switch...  Which, these days, I mostly notice only when I see the discontinuity marked down in the radio schedules for the relevant late-night at the weekend.

But that's not a game-issue.  That's a me-issue.

[hector13]

So why didn't you vote?

[hector13]

Oh, that means, unless TBF is lying, FoU is the Evil role.

[TheBiggerFish]

@hector:How'd you conclude that?

[hector13]

@hector:How'd you conclude that?

You said you didn't vote; Starver has at least implied that too; Moonlit voted for me; I voted for someone (and I won't say who because it affects them more than me) that wasn't TBF.

Odd one out is FoU who, as you say, is pushing all the suspicion buttons. Most suspicious is saying he's a hippyohwaitnoI'mnotI'mapacifist.

I think FoU needs to talk his way out the corner he's edging himself into.