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[Rowanas]

The problem of crime is intrinsically different, at least in many of our states.  The reality is that many of us live pretty far away from police response.

I mean, I'm okay.  I think we're probably within 15 minutes.
My housemate still keeps a gun, because he grew up in the "boonies".
And I'm completely okay with that.

I'm not backing down from my previous comment.  A firearm is not a reasonable response to... well, anything, really.  I won't even treat with a firearm policeman over here, nor will I walk on the same side of the road as them.  I'm not anti-firearm at all. for hunting and range shooting, fine, but the notion of letting any old fucker have a gun, and even of the government having no idea who has one or more guns, is lunacy.

[Yoink]

I'm not anti-firearm at all.

Is... is this a parody of something? After everything else you've said, this has to be a joke of some kind. I shall raise an awkward chuckle, then, I guess?

[Gentlefish]

I won't even treat with a firearm policeman over here, nor will I walk on the same side of the road as them.

I'm not anti-firearm at all.

How is that not, at its core, anti-firearm? You have an intrinsic distrust in anyone who carries one, including those trained specifically to handle them in public.

[scourge728]

If I could take a guess, it's not anti-firearm in the sense of "no one should ever use a firearm for any purpose ever" kind of anti-firearm

[Hanslanda]

It is an unacceptable horror that the government shouldn't know how many firearms a private citizen has. fuck me, let's just sell you nukes, who the fuck cared, kill anyone you like.  I am reminded once again of how much the USA needs to sink beneath the waves with all hands lost.

I absolutely agree but this is the world we live in.

[dragdeler]

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[hector13]

I mean, probably better to not allow weapons to be hackable.

[TD1]

I've never been in a fight. Never broken a bone either, for that matter...


Closest I've ever gotten to a tussle was in the army, when I made the dreadful faux pas of suggesting that the polite young fellow return to the festivities upstairs rather than hold the broken restroom stall door closed for me while I vomit. He took offence.

Yes, he really wanted to fight me because I thought he should be doing something more entertaining with his time than stand pukewatch for me. Alcohol is a strange place...

At least you had a projectile weapon to... mouth... which he presumably didn't!

[Kagus]

I've never been in a fight. Never broken a bone either, for that matter...


Closest I've ever gotten to a tussle was in the army, when I made the dreadful faux pas of suggesting that the polite young fellow return to the festivities upstairs rather than hold the broken restroom stall door closed for me while I vomit. He took offence.

Yes, he really wanted to fight me because I thought he should be doing something more entertaining with his time than stand pukewatch for me. Alcohol is a strange place...

At least you had a projectile weapon to... mouth... which he presumably didn't!

Yeah, that's one of those cases where the recoil is at least as bad as the effect on target.

[dragdeler]

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[Rowanas]

Ok, so my previous statement caused some confusion, I guess

I won't even treat with a firearm policeman over here, nor will I walk on the same side of the road as them.

I'm not anti-firearm at all.

How is that not, at its core, anti-firearm? You have an intrinsic distrust in anyone who carries one, including those trained specifically to handle them in public.

I am interested in and have trained with firearms, I understand that they serve a recreational purpose when tightly controlled, and similarly are fine if you intend to kill someone.  It should never be the intention of a policeman to kill anyone, and since they're not at a range, they should not have firearms.  It is not a tool with another purpose - it is only and explicitly a device for killing things.  I won't deal with armed policemen for the same reason I won't deal with an armed soldier or an armed citizen - if you have a firearm and are not pointing it downrange, then you have taken up arms in readiness to kill, and I want no part of that shit.

[Khan Boyzitbig]

As long as criminals use guns to hurt or kill or worse then there will be armed cops and a need for them.

[Hanslanda]

I think you're confusing carrying with brandishing for one. Simply possessing a firearm doesn't indicate anything other than, 'I'd rather kill instead of being killed'.

Brandishing is a huge no-no and actually qualifies for a very serious felony in USA and is grounds for defending yourself from the brandishee with lethal force. Any gun owner with a half a brain knows you don't unholster a firearm without a serious threat to human life present. I wouldn't even take mine out for a robbery or car jacking as long as no one was in immediate and imminent danger. Most criminals prefer to steal your shit and run anyway.

[dragdeler]

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[KittyTac]

Servers fall, everyone dies.