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[scourge728]

Argh why did I buy tickets to this thing?
I would have been better off staying at home. Though no doubt I would have been angry at myself for that, anyway...

Hey, wanna buy tickets to the vegan festival happening in Oslo come May 25th? There's a vegan Vietnamese restaurant with a booth, an Indonesian booth, and a vegan ice cream stand handing out free samples to market their new flavor.

Just in case you wanted to obligate yourself to more things that are unrealistic or complicated.

I keep trying to process vegan ice cream, and I can't comprehend what that would be, but I can't imagine it would be pleasant

EDIT: I'll be honest, I forgot there are plants that give "milk" that makes way more sense now

[George_Chickens]

Argh why did I buy tickets to this thing?
I would have been better off staying at home. Though no doubt I would have been angry at myself for that, anyway...

Hey, wanna buy tickets to the vegan festival happening in Oslo come May 25th? There's a vegan Vietnamese restaurant with a booth, an Indonesian booth, and a vegan ice cream stand handing out free samples to market their new flavor.

Just in case you wanted to obligate yourself to more things that are unrealistic or complicated.

I keep trying to process vegan ice cream, and I can't comprehend what that would be, but I can't imagine it would be pleasant

EDIT: I'll be honest, I forgot there are plants that give "milk" that makes way more sense now

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tiddy plant

[methylatedspirit]

Yeah, but can butter be made out of these plant-based milks?

[Yoink]

I dunno about butter (I've always preferred other types of spread anyway), but the vegan magnums I've been eating taste identical to the dairy kind.

[Trekkin]

Yeah, but can butter be made out of these plant-based milks?

Well, yes and no, depending on whether peanut butter is butter.

[methylatedspirit]

For my purposes, peanut butter is different from butter butter. They don't taste similar, so I guess they fit in different categories.

[Doomblade187]

@Josh, please don't let your emotions bottle up. That's not healthy for you.

[Trekkin]

For my purposes, peanut butter is different from butter butter. They don't taste similar, so I guess they fit in different categories.

The best and least helpful answer is probably "kind of", then. The butter that can be made from soy milk and/or nut milk is chemically closer to an extremely soft cheese, being made by adding acid-curdled soy milk to oil and emulsifying. You can't just blend plant milks into butter by themselves.

[itisnotlogical]

I like trading card games but man they turn me in to such a terrible loser.

[scriver]

Yeah, but can butter be made out of these plant-based milks?

Well, yes and no, depending on whether peanut butter is butter.

Peanut butter is only butter if it's peanuts mixed with butter.

It would be much simpler if you would just call butter "smear" like we do in Swedish. Do you smear it in things? Then it's smear. Peanut smear, garlic smear, coconut smear, smear oil, it's all the same.

[methylatedspirit]

My mind is now oversaturated with the word "smear", and now it's meaningless to me.

[Kagus]

I haven't seen any particularly good veggie butters, but there are a few margarines that are perfectly decent for cooking purposes. But no, it's not butter and you better believe it.

Ice cream, on the other hand, works just fine. This particular company is called "Oatly" and, as one might expect, focuses on oat-based products. They've got a chocolate milk that's actually really good, I honestly prefer it to the dairy chocolate milks you can buy around here. Never tried their ice cream before, but I've seen it. Their general style is painfully hipster, however...

In the states we mostly went for stuff from Silk. Silk has an exceptionally smooth and tasty chocolate milk, and they have a line of very creamy ice creams as well. The good stuff definitely exists, but there are plenty of butt-end manufacturers that make bad products as well... as with anything else.

[methylatedspirit]

I'm thinking that this vegan stuff is niche at best, and will command prohibitive prices or be outright unavailable where I live.

[Kagus]

The pricing is definitely an issue, quite often. While they don't have the expense of cattle raising to factor into the product, they also don't have the established market and subsidies that "Big Meat" and the milk lobby have brought to conventional products. And there's still a lot of stigma around vegan food, not least of which because it's associated with vegans.

That said, there have been some real improvements in the production technology compared to older attempts. Tofurkey now is almost edible, compared to the semi-solid lump that was early 00's Tofurkey... So some of the stigma was well-deserved, it just doesn't apply as much now as it did several years ago.

[methylatedspirit]

Huh, I ate meat substitute and fish while I was in Australia, but that's mostly from paranoia about Australian meat not meeting my parent's religious standards. I can't remember much of it, but I think it's because those memories have been "purged" in my Post-Edgelord phase of 2017-18.