Topic: Increasing Ocean Spawns? (Read 5432 times)

RedReign · « **on:** January 08, 2016, 04:16:19 pm »

Over the years I keep on coming back to this thread, where someone back in DF2010 managed to catch sea creatures in a savage ocean by pretty much draining the ocean and setting up traps in the sea, or using a channel full of traps that could be drained and flooded at will.

What I'm having trouble with has left me stumped; I cannot get sea creatures to spawn. No non-vermin fish or other aquatic life will enter the map and I can't figure out why. It's been years in-game, and in the past I've tried setting up bridges at the edge of land and raising them to prevent land spawns, but it hardly changed anything.

Is there something in the raws that I can change to increase a world's sea life spawns? Are there other methods I'm missing or things I should consider for embarks? For my current fort, I have embarked between a temperate forest "Wilderness" biome and a savage "Untamed Wilds" ocean. The ocean, for the most part, is 1 level deep, except for one corner which is about 20 tiles of 2-level deep water. I get plenty of smaller vermin fish but no big creatures.

gestahl · « **Reply #1 on:** January 08, 2016, 04:43:29 pm »

I think dfhack has a population tool. Your site/biome might just not have anything interesting. There are also tons more things that can spawn compared to years ago, so you might just be unlucky.

Try finding a site with three map edges being water and wall off the caverns and see if you get the spawns you'd expect?

Symmetry · « **Reply #2 on:** January 08, 2016, 05:11:02 pm »

Quote from: gestahl on January 08, 2016, 04:43:29 pm

I think dfhack has a population tool.

region-pops?

Dozebôm Lolumzalìs · « **Reply #3 on:** January 08, 2016, 06:01:57 pm »

Sounds like it.

RedReign · « **Reply #4 on:** January 08, 2016, 06:03:42 pm »

region-pops is the right one. Just installed DFHack to take a look for you guys. Thanks for the responses, by the way.

This is some of the stuff I get. Lots of sharks and other creatures.

I've also noted that wildlife usually shows up in groups, and a new group won't appear until the previous group has left or been dealt with. I had a group of giant cardinals flying around on the map, and then as soon as they left, 5 or 6 wild boars showed up. After they left, a fox entered the map and ran around until one of my hunters killed it. Then the giant cardinals instantly returned.

Symmetry · « **Reply #5 on:** January 08, 2016, 06:22:27 pm »

the one group at a time behaviour is normal. Kill them quickly to get another group.
I'm not sure if it will select a different biome if you kill every land animal in that list or not, but it might?

RedReign · « **Reply #6 on:** January 08, 2016, 06:24:33 pm »

Ah. That's irritating.

So I'm going to just have to bridge up again? If I remember correctly, that still didn't prevent flying creatures from spawning though, right?

PatrikLundell · « **Reply #7 on:** January 08, 2016, 06:36:22 pm »

I'd reduce the number of all unwanted types of critters radically using region-pops. If you get one group, kill it off, and you won't have to deal with that species any more.

Also note that bridges will presumably also block sieges, caravans, and visitors.

khearn · « **Reply #8 on:** January 08, 2016, 06:50:10 pm »

Build marksdwarf towers around the edges, so your marksdwarves can quickly take down fliers.

You may need to draft a few more marksdwarves than most forts typically do, though, depending on how long your land borders are.

RedReign · « **Reply #9 on:** January 08, 2016, 08:25:33 pm »

No luck so far. Still haven't gotten any sea creatures (except for sea otters, which technically spawn on land). I've been using region-pops whenever a group shows up. If I don't get any luck today I'll start a new world with new embarks and see if DFHack can help me then.

Raphite1 · « **Reply #10 on:** January 09, 2016, 02:54:56 am »

I'm pretty sure that in the past I was able to get sea creatures to spawn by completely depleting the land biomes of creatures. Just killed them all until none were left, and the game had no choice but to spawn from the water-biome populations. It didn't take as long as you might expect.

That was years ago, though, so things may be different now.

RedReign · « **Reply #11 on:** January 09, 2016, 03:38:20 am »

I managed to do it by building bridges as before. I have a man-made tunnel that I flood with ocean water as an above-ground tile for things to spawn.

I managed to catch a couple sharks, and a crab man and crab woman!

However, I'm having a problem. I can't seem to pit the crab man or crab woman - they just don't show up on the list! Any reason for this? Any way I can fix it?

PatrikLundell · « **Reply #12 on:** January 09, 2016, 05:19:35 am »

There is a reason for the pitting failure and there is nothing you can do about it that's known.

That is, it's been reported on the bug tracker, but isn't yet acknowledged as a bug (rather than a feature) that all sapient creatures are now treated the same way as dwarves were in 0.40.X in most respects, and that includes not being possible to pit. The main work around is to hook cages to levers to release the creatures where you want them. I guess retracting bridges can be sort of used as a poor mans pittery, but you need to time the opening to when the critters are on top of it, and then might get hurt by the fall.

vjek · « **Reply #13 on:** January 09, 2016, 12:17:57 pm »

As far as embarks go... found one with this for region-pops output:

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Creatures and vermin: ALBATROSS_MAN 35 ANT innumerable BARK_SCORPION 6356 BARK_SCORPION_MAN 43 BARN_OWL_MAN 52 BAT 8708 BAT_GIANT 523 BEETLE innumerable BEETLE_MAN 57 BIRD_ALBATROSS 294 BIRD_BUZZARD 422 BIRD_COCKATIEL 7836 BIRD_EAGLE 534 BIRD_FALCON_PEREGRINE 402 BIRD_OSPREY 279 BIRD_OSTRICH 272 BIRD_OSTRICH_GIANT 189 BIRD_OWL_BARN 477 BIRD_OWL_GREAT_HORNED 422 BIRD_RAVEN 5998 BIRD_SWALLOW_CAVE 11343 BIRD_SWALLOW_CAVE_GIANT 201 BIRD_VULTURE 328 BIRD_WREN 5121 BLIND_CAVE_OGRE 189 BLOOD_MAN 760 BOBCAT 21 BOBCAT_MAN 50 BUGBAT 564 BUMBLEBEE innumerable BUTTERFLY_MONARCH 9220 BUTTERFLY_MONARCH_MAN 64 BUZZARD_MAN 57 CAMEL_1_HUMP 309 CAMEL_1_HUMP_MAN 61 CAMEL_2_HUMP 477 CAMEL_2_HUMP_MAN 65 CAP_HOPPER 8910 CAVE_DRAGON 93 COCKATIEL_MAN 59 COYOTE 328 COYOTE_MAN 52 CRAB 4927 CRAB_MAN 31 CREEPING_EYE 10246 CREEPY_CRAWLER 14396 CROCODILE_CAVE 421 CRUNDLE 6153 CUTTLEFISH 5800 CUTTLEFISH_MAN 31 DAMSELFLY 7236 DESERT TORTOISE 384 DESERT_TORTOISE_MAN 50 DINGO 346 DINGO_MAN 59 DRAGONFLY 8717 DRALTHA 519 EAGLE_MAN 64 ECHIDNA 459 ECHIDNA_MAN 64 ELEMENTMAN_FIRE 886 ELEMENTMAN_MAGMA 745 ELK_BIRD 748 FIREFLY 8927 FIREFLY_MAN 57 FISH_ANCHOVY 7184 FISH_BLUEFISH 221 FISH_CAVE 14541 FISH_COD 222 FISH_CONGER_EEL 308 FISH_FLOUNDER 5043 FISH_HAGFISH 5398 FISH_HAKE 5727 FISH_HALIBUT 308 FISH_HERRING 8420 FISH_LAMPREY_BROOK 6302 FISH_LAMPREY_SEA 221 FISH_MACKEREL 5818 FISH_MARLIN 308 FISH_OPAH 423 FISH_RATFISH_SPOTTED 5159 FISH_RAY_BAT 3673 FISH_RAY_THORNBACK 5972 FISH_SALMON 5008 FISH_SEAHORSE 4324 FISH_SHAD 5852 FISH_SKATE_COMMON 294 FISH_SOLE 4987 FISH_STURGEON 265 FISH_SUNFISH_OCEAN 250 FISH_SWORDFISH 279 FISH_TROUT_STEELHEAD 4227 FISH_TUNA_BLUEFIN 479 FLESH_BALL 9943 FLY 87315 FLY_ACORN 16592 FLY_MAN 36 GECKO_LEOPARD 6506 GIANT PEREGRINE FALCON 7 GIANT_ALBATROSS 146 GIANT_BARK_SCORPION 134 GIANT_BARN_OWL 163 GIANT_BEETLE 127 GIANT_BOBCAT 15 GIANT_BUTTERFLY_MONARCH 92 GIANT_BUZZARD 168 GIANT_CAMEL_1_HUMP 175 GIANT_CAMEL_2_HUMP 168 GIANT_COCKATIEL 169 GIANT_COYOTE 99 GIANT_CRAB 56 GIANT_CUTTLEFISH 46 GIANT_DESERT_TORTOISE 189 GIANT_DINGO 113 GIANT_EAGLE 196 GIANT_ECHIDNA 113 GIANT_FIREFLY 71 GIANT_FLY 92 GIANT_GILA_MONSTER 50 GIANT_GRASSHOPPER 64 GIANT_GRAY_LANGUR 250 GIANT_GREAT_HORNED_OWL 162 GIANT_HAMSTER 85 GIANT_HORSESHOE_CRAB 2120 GIANT_IBEX 134 GIANT_JAGUAR 15 GIANT_JUMPING_SPIDER 127 GIANT_KANGAROO 106 GIANT_KINGSNAKE 127 GIANT_LEOPARD 8 GIANT_LEOPARD_GECKO 127 GIANT_LIZARD 57 GIANT_LOUSE 85 GIANT_MANTIS 216 GIANT_MOON_SNAIL 61 GIANT_MOSQUITO 99 GIANT_MOTH 127 GIANT_NAUTILUS 76 GIANT_OCTOPUS 86 GIANT_ORCA 131 GIANT_OSPREY 111 GIANT_PORCUPINE 120 GIANT_RATTLESNAKE 99 GIANT_RAVEN 99 GIANT_ROACH 99 GIANT_SLUG 120 GIANT_SNAIL 134 GIANT_SPARROW 158 GIANT_SPERM_WHALE 71 GIANT_SPONGE 2050 GIANT_THRIPS 99 GIANT_TICK 113 GIANT_VULTURE 189 GIANT_WEASEL 175 GIANT_WREN 148 GIGANTIC SQUID 81 GILA_MONSTER 121 GILA_MONSTER_MAN 29 GORLAK 318 GRASSHOPPER_MAN 36 GRAY_LANGUR 908 GRAY_LANGUR_MAN 61 GREAT_HORNED_OWL_MAN 65 GREEN_DEVOURER 442 GREEN_TREE_FROG 1281 GREMLIN 28 HAMSTER 8824 HAMSTER_MAN 50 HONEY BADGER 309 HONEY BADGER MAN 65 HONEY BADGER, GIANT 127 HONEY_BEE innumerable HORSESHOE_CRAB 4584 HORSESHOE_CRAB_MAN 36 IBEX 272 IBEX_MAN 36 IMP_FIRE 567 JAGUAR 21 JAGUAR_MAN 57 JELLYFISH_SEA_NETTLE 1381 JUMPING_SPIDER_MAN 43 KANGAROO 422 KANGAROO_MAN 56 KINGSNAKE 402 KINGSNAKE_MAN 29 LEOPARD 21 LEOPARD_GECKO_MAN 57 LEOPARD_MAN 57 LIZARD 8395 LIZARD_MAN 57 LIZARD_RHINO_TWO_LEGGED 3411 LOBSTER_CAVE 12748 LOUSE innumerable LOUSE_MAN 36 MAGGOT_PURRING 1734 MAGMA_CRAB 1256 MANERA 876 MANTIS 571 MANTIS_MAN 36 MOGHOPPER 2932 MOLE_GIANT 620 MOON_SNAIL innumerable MOON_SNAIL_MAN 41 MOSQUITO 55288 MOSQUITO_MAN 50 MOTH 9182 MOTH_MAN 50 MUSSEL innumerable NAUTILUS 6158 NAUTILUS_MAN 26 OCTOPUS 1092 OCTOPUS_MAN 31 OLM 9794 OLM_GIANT 535 ORCA 250 ORCA_MAN 36 OSPREY_MAN 22 OSTRICH MAN 65 OYSTER innumerable PEREGRINE FALCON MAN 56 PLUMP_HELMET_MAN 657 POND_GRABBER 713 POND_TURTLE 7777 PORCUPINE 441 PORCUPINE_MAN 30 RAT 5159 RATTLESNAKE 441 RATTLESNAKE_MAN 29 RAT_LARGE 85 RAT_MAN 31 RAVEN_MAN 55 REACHER 418 ROACH_LARGE 5102 ROACH_MAN 43 RUTHERER 174 SEA OTTER 193 SEA_SERPENT 5 SHARK_ANGEL 423 SHARK_BASKING 279 SHARK_BLUE 250 SHARK_FRILL 207 SHARK_GREAT_WHITE 308 SHARK_HAMMERHEAD 221 SHARK_MAKO_LONGFIN 236 SHARK_MAKO_SHORTFIN 294 SHARK_NURSE 294 SHARK_SPINY_DOGFISH 393 SHARK_WOBBEGONG_SPOTTED 221 SLUG innumerable SLUG_MAN 50 SNAIL innumerable SNAIL_MAN 64 SNAKE_FIRE 10004 SPARROW 7254 SPARROW_MAN 50 SPERM_WHALE 236 SPERM_WHALE_MAN 46 SPIDER_CAVE 12972 SPIDER_CAVE_GIANT 107 SPIDER_JUMPING 6785 SPONGE_MAN 26 SQUID 5800 SQUID MAN 41 TERMITE innumerable THRIPS innumerable THRIPS_MAN 65 TICK innumerable TICK_MAN 64 TOAD 5272 TOAD_GIANT_CAVE 368 TROGLODYTE 120 TROLL 304 VORACIOUS_CAVE_CRAWLER 92 VULTURE_MAN 57 WEASEL 309 WEASEL_MAN 43 WREN_MAN 63

Looks pretty good, ocean-wise, with squid, octopus, whales, many fish types, giant versions, and so on.
If you're interested, I can post the worldgen and embark location.
In that past, I used DFHack obsidian walls on the map edge to curtail spawns in certain locations. Might work here with getting only ocean spawns?

RedReign · « **Reply #14 on:** January 09, 2016, 02:57:22 pm »

I wanted to see what I could do in Dwarf Fortress without resorting to 3rd party scripts, and while region-pops is useful, I don't want to cheat by building walls or killing off species, or doing things with hacks if there's a genuine method to do it!

Here's some interesting discoveries I found!
What I managed to do was line the perimeter of my world with drawbridges, and then raise them. This forced no land spawns. I left one tile open, and things still chose to pour through there, with NONE of them being sea creatures. At this point, I was convinced that the other biomes take priority to ocean biomes when it comes to spawning creatures. When I moved the edge tile to be in the ocean biome, but above ground and on the beach, land animals that live in ocean biomes came through (crabs, albatrosses, sea otters). Even when the only creatures that could spawn were ocean spawns, the game STILL prioritized land creatures.

Wanting to further experiment, I built drawbridges and walls to create an aqueduct that would feed to the edge of the map, where this one tile was. My pump did an excellent job of draining water from the ocean and feeding it into this tunnel I made, and then something interesting happened.

When I flooded this exit to the map and kept it flooded, sea creatures constantly poured through it. Absolutely none spawned in the actual ocean, despite there only being aquatic ocean spawn tiles. They would consistently come through the artificial water tile I had created on the beach.

I don't know what exactly is causing this, as the only fundamental difference is that the aqueduct is one level above the ocean, and on the beach instead of offshore like the other edge tiles.

More experimentation is required! I'm very excited to hear what you all think of this. Thanks for the replies from everyone!

Quote from: vjek on January 09, 2016, 12:17:57 pm

As far as embarks go... found one with this for region-pops output:

Spoiler (click to show/hide)
Creatures and vermin: ALBATROSS_MAN 35 ANT innumerable BARK_SCORPION 6356 BARK_SCORPION_MAN 43 BARN_OWL_MAN 52 BAT 8708 BAT_GIANT 523 BEETLE innumerable BEETLE_MAN 57 BIRD_ALBATROSS 294 BIRD_BUZZARD 422 BIRD_COCKATIEL 7836 BIRD_EAGLE 534 BIRD_FALCON_PEREGRINE 402 BIRD_OSPREY 279 BIRD_OSTRICH 272 BIRD_OSTRICH_GIANT 189 BIRD_OWL_BARN 477 BIRD_OWL_GREAT_HORNED 422 BIRD_RAVEN 5998 BIRD_SWALLOW_CAVE 11343 BIRD_SWALLOW_CAVE_GIANT 201 BIRD_VULTURE 328 BIRD_WREN 5121 BLIND_CAVE_OGRE 189 BLOOD_MAN 760 BOBCAT 21 BOBCAT_MAN 50 BUGBAT 564 BUMBLEBEE innumerable BUTTERFLY_MONARCH 9220 BUTTERFLY_MONARCH_MAN 64 BUZZARD_MAN 57 CAMEL_1_HUMP 309 CAMEL_1_HUMP_MAN 61 CAMEL_2_HUMP 477 CAMEL_2_HUMP_MAN 65 CAP_HOPPER 8910 CAVE_DRAGON 93 COCKATIEL_MAN 59 COYOTE 328 COYOTE_MAN 52 CRAB 4927 CRAB_MAN 31 CREEPING_EYE 10246 CREEPY_CRAWLER 14396 CROCODILE_CAVE 421 CRUNDLE 6153 CUTTLEFISH 5800 CUTTLEFISH_MAN 31 DAMSELFLY 7236 DESERT TORTOISE 384 DESERT_TORTOISE_MAN 50 DINGO 346 DINGO_MAN 59 DRAGONFLY 8717 DRALTHA 519 EAGLE_MAN 64 ECHIDNA 459 ECHIDNA_MAN 64 ELEMENTMAN_FIRE 886 ELEMENTMAN_MAGMA 745 ELK_BIRD 748 FIREFLY 8927 FIREFLY_MAN 57 FISH_ANCHOVY 7184 FISH_BLUEFISH 221 FISH_CAVE 14541 FISH_COD 222 FISH_CONGER_EEL 308 FISH_FLOUNDER 5043 FISH_HAGFISH 5398 FISH_HAKE 5727 FISH_HALIBUT 308 FISH_HERRING 8420 FISH_LAMPREY_BROOK 6302 FISH_LAMPREY_SEA 221 FISH_MACKEREL 5818 FISH_MARLIN 308 FISH_OPAH 423 FISH_RATFISH_SPOTTED 5159 FISH_RAY_BAT 3673 FISH_RAY_THORNBACK 5972 FISH_SALMON 5008 FISH_SEAHORSE 4324 FISH_SHAD 5852 FISH_SKATE_COMMON 294 FISH_SOLE 4987 FISH_STURGEON 265 FISH_SUNFISH_OCEAN 250 FISH_SWORDFISH 279 FISH_TROUT_STEELHEAD 4227 FISH_TUNA_BLUEFIN 479 FLESH_BALL 9943 FLY 87315 FLY_ACORN 16592 FLY_MAN 36 GECKO_LEOPARD 6506 GIANT PEREGRINE FALCON 7 GIANT_ALBATROSS 146 GIANT_BARK_SCORPION 134 GIANT_BARN_OWL 163 GIANT_BEETLE 127 GIANT_BOBCAT 15 GIANT_BUTTERFLY_MONARCH 92 GIANT_BUZZARD 168 GIANT_CAMEL_1_HUMP 175 GIANT_CAMEL_2_HUMP 168 GIANT_COCKATIEL 169 GIANT_COYOTE 99 GIANT_CRAB 56 GIANT_CUTTLEFISH 46 GIANT_DESERT_TORTOISE 189 GIANT_DINGO 113 GIANT_EAGLE 196 GIANT_ECHIDNA 113 GIANT_FIREFLY 71 GIANT_FLY 92 GIANT_GILA_MONSTER 50 GIANT_GRASSHOPPER 64 GIANT_GRAY_LANGUR 250 GIANT_GREAT_HORNED_OWL 162 GIANT_HAMSTER 85 GIANT_HORSESHOE_CRAB 2120 GIANT_IBEX 134 GIANT_JAGUAR 15 GIANT_JUMPING_SPIDER 127 GIANT_KANGAROO 106 GIANT_KINGSNAKE 127 GIANT_LEOPARD 8 GIANT_LEOPARD_GECKO 127 GIANT_LIZARD 57 GIANT_LOUSE 85 GIANT_MANTIS 216 GIANT_MOON_SNAIL 61 GIANT_MOSQUITO 99 GIANT_MOTH 127 GIANT_NAUTILUS 76 GIANT_OCTOPUS 86 GIANT_ORCA 131 GIANT_OSPREY 111 GIANT_PORCUPINE 120 GIANT_RATTLESNAKE 99 GIANT_RAVEN 99 GIANT_ROACH 99 GIANT_SLUG 120 GIANT_SNAIL 134 GIANT_SPARROW 158 GIANT_SPERM_WHALE 71 GIANT_SPONGE 2050 GIANT_THRIPS 99 GIANT_TICK 113 GIANT_VULTURE 189 GIANT_WEASEL 175 GIANT_WREN 148 GIGANTIC SQUID 81 GILA_MONSTER 121 GILA_MONSTER_MAN 29 GORLAK 318 GRASSHOPPER_MAN 36 GRAY_LANGUR 908 GRAY_LANGUR_MAN 61 GREAT_HORNED_OWL_MAN 65 GREEN_DEVOURER 442 GREEN_TREE_FROG 1281 GREMLIN 28 HAMSTER 8824 HAMSTER_MAN 50 HONEY BADGER 309 HONEY BADGER MAN 65 HONEY BADGER, GIANT 127 HONEY_BEE innumerable HORSESHOE_CRAB 4584 HORSESHOE_CRAB_MAN 36 IBEX 272 IBEX_MAN 36 IMP_FIRE 567 JAGUAR 21 JAGUAR_MAN 57 JELLYFISH_SEA_NETTLE 1381 JUMPING_SPIDER_MAN 43 KANGAROO 422 KANGAROO_MAN 56 KINGSNAKE 402 KINGSNAKE_MAN 29 LEOPARD 21 LEOPARD_GECKO_MAN 57 LEOPARD_MAN 57 LIZARD 8395 LIZARD_MAN 57 LIZARD_RHINO_TWO_LEGGED 3411 LOBSTER_CAVE 12748 LOUSE innumerable LOUSE_MAN 36 MAGGOT_PURRING 1734 MAGMA_CRAB 1256 MANERA 876 MANTIS 571 MANTIS_MAN 36 MOGHOPPER 2932 MOLE_GIANT 620 MOON_SNAIL innumerable MOON_SNAIL_MAN 41 MOSQUITO 55288 MOSQUITO_MAN 50 MOTH 9182 MOTH_MAN 50 MUSSEL innumerable NAUTILUS 6158 NAUTILUS_MAN 26 OCTOPUS 1092 OCTOPUS_MAN 31 OLM 9794 OLM_GIANT 535 ORCA 250 ORCA_MAN 36 OSPREY_MAN 22 OSTRICH MAN 65 OYSTER innumerable PEREGRINE FALCON MAN 56 PLUMP_HELMET_MAN 657 POND_GRABBER 713 POND_TURTLE 7777 PORCUPINE 441 PORCUPINE_MAN 30 RAT 5159 RATTLESNAKE 441 RATTLESNAKE_MAN 29 RAT_LARGE 85 RAT_MAN 31 RAVEN_MAN 55 REACHER 418 ROACH_LARGE 5102 ROACH_MAN 43 RUTHERER 174 SEA OTTER 193 SEA_SERPENT 5 SHARK_ANGEL 423 SHARK_BASKING 279 SHARK_BLUE 250 SHARK_FRILL 207 SHARK_GREAT_WHITE 308 SHARK_HAMMERHEAD 221 SHARK_MAKO_LONGFIN 236 SHARK_MAKO_SHORTFIN 294 SHARK_NURSE 294 SHARK_SPINY_DOGFISH 393 SHARK_WOBBEGONG_SPOTTED 221 SLUG innumerable SLUG_MAN 50 SNAIL innumerable SNAIL_MAN 64 SNAKE_FIRE 10004 SPARROW 7254 SPARROW_MAN 50 SPERM_WHALE 236 SPERM_WHALE_MAN 46 SPIDER_CAVE 12972 SPIDER_CAVE_GIANT 107 SPIDER_JUMPING 6785 SPONGE_MAN 26 SQUID 5800 SQUID MAN 41 TERMITE innumerable THRIPS innumerable THRIPS_MAN 65 TICK innumerable TICK_MAN 64 TOAD 5272 TOAD_GIANT_CAVE 368 TROGLODYTE 120 TROLL 304 VORACIOUS_CAVE_CRAWLER 92 VULTURE_MAN 57 WEASEL 309 WEASEL_MAN 43 WREN_MAN 63
Looks pretty good, ocean-wise, with squid, octopus, whales, many fish types, giant versions, and so on.
If you're interested, I can post the worldgen and embark location.
In that past, I used DFHack obsidian walls on the map edge to curtail spawns in certain locations. Might work here with getting only ocean spawns?

Thanks for the offer, but have you tried embarking there yourself? Did you see things spawning there, or are you only going by region-pops? It's quite similar to my own embark, honestly.

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