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Keep the vanilla ones

Use an expanded vocabularly

Start entirely from scratch

Cull the words that don't make sense from vanilla, then add words as we go

Other(post it in the comments)

[Dorsidwarf]

Okay, trying to make a creature, but there seems to be some pretty immense differences between how the wiki says to use [body] and how its being used in bearskie's creatures (Which I'm using as an example)

[Cerapter]

I have no idea how to do that, unfortunately.

I'll whip up a basic spreadsheet if you need it.

Okay, trying to make a creature, but there seems to be some pretty immense differences between how the wiki says to use [body] and how its being used in bearskie's creatures (Which I'm using as an example)

Please check if you are not mistaking body files with body detail files. I did that for a long time.
Both seem okay to me, though. Seem. I have not yet checked them in-game. (Nor will I till the end of the week; I'm doing finals right now.)

But in case you meant the [BODY] tag in the creature raws, well... Those seem good, too. [BODY] just needs every body part you want on a creature, with minimal ordering (like, not putting arms connected to the upper body when you haven't put in an upper body yet).

[Dorsidwarf]

Spoiler: Screatures! (click to show/hide)

creature_drs

[OBJECT:CREATURE]

[CREATURE:SCREATURE_DRS]
   [NAME:screature:screatures:screature]
   [DESCRIPTION:A moderately-sized lizard, shaped like a snake with two front legs.]
   [CREATURE_TILE:'s']
   [COLOR:0:2:0]
   [LARGE_ROAMING]
   [BIOME:NOT_FREEZING]
   [POPULATION_NUMBER:1:20]
   [PREFSTRING:love of alcohol]
   CURIOUSBEAST_GUZZLER
   [PET]
   [PETVALUE:30]
   [TRAINABLE]
   [SIZE:6]   

        [VISION_ARC:20:300]
   [DIURNAL]
   [BLOODTYPE:C]


   [BODY:TORSO_BSK:LEG_2PART_BIPED_BSK:SPINE_BSK:HEART_BSK:LUNG_BSK:GUT_BSK:HEAD_NECK_BSK:SKULL_BSK:BRAIN_BSK:EYES_4_DRS:MOUTH_BSK:TEETH_GENERIC_BSK:INTERNAL_EARS_BSK:TAIL_BSK]

   [BODY_DETAIL_PLAN:BASIC_MATERIALS_URD]
      [REMOVE_MATERIAL:KERATIN_SCALE]
      [REMOVE_MATERIAL:CHITIN]
   [BODY_DETAIL_PLAN:BASIC_TISSUES_URD]
      [REMOVE_TISSUE:KERATIN_SCALE]
      [REMOVE_TISSUE:CHITIN]      
   
   [BODY_DETAIL_PLAN:BASIC_LAYERS_URD]
   [BODY_DETAIL_PLAN:TAIL_LAYERS_URD]
   [BODY_DETAIL_PLAN:LEG_LAYERS_URD]


   [ATTACK:BITE:BODYPART:BY_CATEGORY:MOUTH_BSK]
      [ATTACK_SKILL:GRASP_STRIKE]
      [ATTACK_VERB:bite:bites]
      [ATTACK_PREPARE_AND_RECOVER:2:1]
      [ATTACK_PRIORITY:MAIN]

   [CHILD:2]
   [CHILDNAME:screaturelet:screaturelets]
   

   [CASTE:MALE]
      [MALE]
   [CASTE:FEMALE]
      [FEMALE]
      [LITTERSIZE:1:4]

   

How's that?

e: uses

Spoiler: 4-eyes eye template (click to show/hide)

Code: [Select]

body_drs

[OBJECT:BODY]

[BODY:EYES_4_DRS]
[BP:FREYE:first right eye:STP][CONTYPE:HEAD][SIGHT][EMBEDDED][SMALL][RIGHT][CATEGORY:EYE]
[DEFAULT_RELSIZE:15]

[BP:SREYE:second right eye:STP][CONTYPE:HEAD][SIGHT][EMBEDDED][SMALL][RIGHT][CATEGORY:EYE]
[DEFAULT_RELSIZE:15]

[BP:FLEYE:first left eye:STP][CONTYPE:HEAD][SIGHT][EMBEDDED][SMALL][LEFT][CATEGORY:EYE]
[DEFAULT_RELSIZE:15]

[BP:SLEYE:second left eye:STP][CONTYPE:HEAD][SIGHT][EMBEDDED][SMALL][LEFT][CATEGORY:EYE]
[DEFAULT_RELSIZE:15]

[Cerapter]

Looks good to me. Looks, again, I don't have the time to check right now.
Though [SIZE] is not a valid tag. [BODY_SIZE:years:days:size] is one, though.
And besides, a size of 6 is tiny. Like, that's about six times as large as an ant.

Anyway, here's a quick mock-up of my suggested spreadsheet re-creation. Mock-up in the sense that only materials are shown, and only two are currently in.

But, assuming nothing goes wrong, you can filter by creator, various numbers, what file the material is in, search for IDs, etc.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/1jvoe7catwobmvu/DFFS_III.xlsx?dl=0

...Also, can you no longer attach stuff?

[Dorsidwarf]

Looks good to me. Looks, again, I don't have the time to check right now.
Though [SIZE] is not a valid tag. [BODY_SIZE:years:days:size] is one, though.
And besides, a size of 6 is tiny. Like, that's about six times as large as an ant.


...Also, can you no longer attach stuff?

The wiki told me SIZE is a tag, that size:6 was about dwarven, size:10 prevents drawbridges, and size:13 is giant sperm whales. I have no clue what the [size] tag actually does but I couldnt find the ;bodysize] documentation.

[Bearskie]

Nice spreadsheet! Probably more functional than mine.

The screatures are missing a lowerbody part; they only have an upper body (torso). You'll likely need ABDOMEN_BSK or some other lowerbody to make them functional.
Also, I think you're looking at an outdated version of the wiki. Try this.

Note. OH SHIT. I realised I didn't copy over the vanilla words, symbol and dwarf files into the files I uploaded. If you want the game to work, you're going to have to insert them into the raws too in the meantime, else it automatically crashes. For now, I've updated the download. Also found a weird bug - game crashes when you try to embark near the edge of the world. Don't know what's causing it.

[Dorsidwarf]

I think tail_bsk is a LOWERBODY part

[Bearskie]

Unfortunately not; its just [CONTYPE:LOWERBODY], that's all.

[Urdothor]

-snip-

Hey Bearskie, no creature classes on your stuff?

[Bearskie]

Huh, no there aren't. Suppose I'll slap on a WORLDLY token onto them (although in the presence of only two classes WORLDLY is essentially the absence of EXTRADIMENSIONAL). My creatures aren't magic resist or anything, so I'll just leave the magic resistance stuff out.

[Urdothor]

I'll slap worldly on them as well.

Your magwharls don't like magma. It drowns them. Amphibious only applies to water I think.
Also, definitely dropping down the strength of bone significantly. Just witnessed 2 magwharls knock the everything off each other.

Edit: You can also come up with new classes if you wish, as well.

Double Edit:
Two Corazoid's fighting eachother results in a near infinite battle of resurrction. It's amusing to watch.

[Bearskie]

Not sure what does that have to do with bone -- Magwharls don't use bone at all. Darn about the drowning part though. Guess I'll have to give them NOBREATHE.

[Urdothor]

Not sure what does that have to do with bone -- Magwharls don't use bone at all. Darn about the drowning part though. Guess I'll have to give them NOBREATHE.

Oh, they don't. Whoops. Mis-read something while scrolling through the raws I think. Or sleep deprivation.
Either way, attacks from them seem to completely massacre each other.

Edit: Given their size I expected them to massacre others, just not eachother.

[Dorsidwarf]

Class is added by [CREATURE_CLASS:] right?

E: Replaced screature's tail_bsk with new bodypart, tail_struct_drs.

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[BODY:TAIL_STRUCT_DWARF]
[BP:TAIL:tail:STP][CONTYPE:UPPPERBODY][CATEGORY:TAIL][LOWERBODY]
[DEFAULT_RELSIZE:575]For animals which have very large tails, or where the lower body is one, like serpents (yes I know snakes have a distinct lower body and tail but that's lame so whatever)

[Urdothor]

Class is added by [CREATURE_CLASS:] right?

E: Replaced screature's tail_bsk with new bodypart, tail_struct_drs.

Code: [Select]

[BODY:TAIL_STRUCT_DWARF]
[BP:TAIL:tail:STP][CONTYPE:UPPPERBODY][CATEGORY:TAIL][LOWERBODY]
[DEFAULT_RELSIZE:575]For animals which have very large tails, or where the lower body is one, like serpents (yes I know snakes have a distinct lower body and tail but that's lame so whatever)

That'll be helpful for some people. Good thinking.



Update: Messaged Eritzap about participating in this. No response yet. If at the end of bugfixing Eritzap still hasn't responded we'll strike through their name and move on.