Topic: Largest flying animal man? (Read 5999 times)

deepspaceprobe9 · « **on:** December 10, 2015, 09:46:07 pm »

What is the largest flying animal man? Preferably a bird man, but it's fine as long as it flies.

ShinQuickMan · « **Reply #1 on:** December 10, 2015, 10:06:45 pm »

Swan Men at 40,000. Only Bat-Men and Cave Swallow Men are larger, but I don't think they're eligible as a player race.

deepspaceprobe9 · « **Reply #2 on:** December 10, 2015, 11:24:11 pm »

Thanks, man

Kiloku · « **Reply #3 on:** December 13, 2015, 08:56:02 am »

if the reason you need to know the size is because of the problem with clothing/armor size for animal men, I suggest editing your reaction_other.txt raw file for a refitting reaction. That's what I added:

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[REACTION:REFIT_ANY_ADV_PAID]
	[NAME:+-- Refitting Armor (2 S. Gem) --+]
	[ADVENTURE_MODE_ENABLED]

[REACTION:REFIT_HELM_ADV_PAID]
	[NAME:refit headwear]
	[ADVENTURE_MODE_ENABLED]
	[REAGENT:Gem:2:SMALLGEM:NO_SUBTYPE:NONE:NONE]
	[REAGENT:item:1:HELM:NONE:NONE:NONE:NONE]
	[PRODUCT:100:1:GET_ITEM_DATA_FROM_REAGENT:item:NONE]

[REACTION:REFIT_ARMOR_ADV_PAID]
	[NAME:refit bodywear]
	[ADVENTURE_MODE_ENABLED]
	[REAGENT:Gem:2:SMALLGEM:NO_SUBTYPE:NONE:NONE]
	[REAGENT:item:1:ARMOR:NONE:NONE:NONE:NONE]
	[PRODUCT:100:1:GET_ITEM_DATA_FROM_REAGENT:item:NONE]

[REACTION:REFIT_PANTS_ADV_PAID]
	[NAME:refit legwear]
	[ADVENTURE_MODE_ENABLED]
	[REAGENT:Gem:2:SMALLGEM:NO_SUBTYPE:NONE:NONE]
	[REAGENT:item:1:PANTS:NONE:NONE:NONE:NONE]
	[PRODUCT:100:1:GET_ITEM_DATA_FROM_REAGENT:item:NONE]

[REACTION:REFIT_GLOVES_ADV_PAID]
	[NAME:refit gloves]
	[ADVENTURE_MODE_ENABLED]
	[REAGENT:Gem:2:SMALLGEM:NO_SUBTYPE:NONE:NONE]
	[REAGENT:first item:1:GLOVES:NONE:NONE:NONE:NONE]
	[REAGENT:second item:1:GLOVES:NONE:NONE:NONE:NONE]
	[PRODUCT:100:1:GET_ITEM_DATA_FROM_REAGENT:first item:NONE]
	[PRODUCT:100:1:GET_ITEM_DATA_FROM_REAGENT:second item:NONE]

[REACTION:REFIT_SHOES_ADV_PAID]
	[NAME:refit footwear]
	[ADVENTURE_MODE_ENABLED]
	[REAGENT:Gem:2:SMALLGEM:NO_SUBTYPE:NONE:NONE]
	[REAGENT:first item:1:SHOES:NONE:NONE:NONE:NONE]
	[REAGENT:second item:1:SHOES:NONE:NONE:NONE:NONE]
	[PRODUCT:100:1:GET_ITEM_DATA_FROM_REAGENT:first item:NONE]
	[PRODUCT:100:1:GET_ITEM_DATA_FROM_REAGENT:second item:NONE]


[REACTION:REFIT_ANY_ADV_PAID_L]
	[NAME:+-- Refitting Armor (1 L. Gem) --+]
	[ADVENTURE_MODE_ENABLED]

[REACTION:REFIT_HELM_ADV_PAID_L]
	[NAME:refit headwear]
	[ADVENTURE_MODE_ENABLED]
	[REAGENT:Gem:1:GEM:NO_SUBTYPE:NONE:NONE]
	[REAGENT:item:1:HELM:NONE:NONE:NONE:NONE]
	[PRODUCT:100:1:GET_ITEM_DATA_FROM_REAGENT:item:NONE]

[REACTION:REFIT_ARMOR_ADV_PAID_L]
	[NAME:refit bodywear]
	[ADVENTURE_MODE_ENABLED]
	[REAGENT:Gem:1:GEM:NO_SUBTYPE:NONE:NONE]
	[REAGENT:item:1:ARMOR:NONE:NONE:NONE:NONE]
	[PRODUCT:100:1:GET_ITEM_DATA_FROM_REAGENT:item:NONE]

[REACTION:REFIT_PANTS_ADV_PAID_L]
	[NAME:refit legwear]
	[ADVENTURE_MODE_ENABLED]
	[REAGENT:Gem:1:GEM:NO_SUBTYPE:NONE:NONE]
	[REAGENT:item:1:PANTS:NONE:NONE:NONE:NONE]
	[PRODUCT:100:1:GET_ITEM_DATA_FROM_REAGENT:item:NONE]

[REACTION:REFIT_GLOVES_ADV_PAID_L]
	[NAME:refit gloves]
	[ADVENTURE_MODE_ENABLED]
	[REAGENT:Gem:1:GEM:NO_SUBTYPE:NONE:NONE]
	[REAGENT:first item:1:GLOVES:NONE:NONE:NONE:NONE]
	[REAGENT:second item:1:GLOVES:NONE:NONE:NONE:NONE]
	[PRODUCT:100:1:GET_ITEM_DATA_FROM_REAGENT:first item:NONE]
	[PRODUCT:100:1:GET_ITEM_DATA_FROM_REAGENT:second item:NONE]

[REACTION:REFIT_SHOES_ADV_PAID_L]
	[NAME:refit footwear]
	[ADVENTURE_MODE_ENABLED]
	[REAGENT:Gem:1:GEM:NO_SUBTYPE:NONE:NONE]
	[REAGENT:first item:1:SHOES:NONE:NONE:NONE:NONE]
	[REAGENT:second item:1:SHOES:NONE:NONE:NONE:NONE]
	[PRODUCT:100:1:GET_ITEM_DATA_FROM_REAGENT:first item:NONE]
	[PRODUCT:100:1:GET_ITEM_DATA_FROM_REAGENT:second item:NONE]

With this, I press x>c, choose the option on the menu, paying 2 small gems or 1 large gem to refit a piece of armor.

Only problem is that, as far as I can tell, quality is always "Normal", not the original item's quality. So a ☼Iron Breastplate☼ becomes an Iron Breastplate

Dozebôm Lolumzalìs · « **Reply #4 on:** December 13, 2015, 02:36:46 pm »

Honestly, a refitting like that would reduce the quality of an armor piece.

deepspaceprobe9 · « **Reply #5 on:** December 13, 2015, 04:09:59 pm »

To be honest, it was to offset the disadvantage of having a small fighter against a big one, and swan men at 40,000 are only 20,000 smaller than dwarves, so that sort of works.

BlackFlyme · « **Reply #6 on:** December 13, 2015, 04:27:41 pm »

Those reactions have no associated [SKILL:X] tag. Items produced will never have a quality due to this. If they did have a skill tag, the results would instead have a resulting quality that depends on the adventurer's level of skill. This would also train the adventurer a little in the selected skill.

Kiloku · « **Reply #7 on:** December 13, 2015, 07:43:44 pm »

I avoided a skill tag because the way they're set up, they work for all of cloth, leather and metal equipment. I slapped it together quickly as a workaround for the unavailability of animal-men sized gear, so I didn't want to set up separate types of refit reaction for each

BlackFlyme · « **Reply #8 on:** December 13, 2015, 07:48:56 pm »

Fair enough. I was just explaining why they never have quality levels for anyone who was wondering why.

It wouldn't be too feasible at the moment for the number of reactions it would require for each skill for Adventure Mode. I do hope that the reaction Category tags work in Adventure Mode at some point.

Comito · « **Reply #9 on:** December 13, 2015, 08:56:23 pm »

Now I want to play a roc man. You know, for science.

Are there any raws wizards among us that could create such a being?

BlackFlyme · « **Reply #10 on:** December 13, 2015, 09:03:42 pm »

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

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[CREATURE:ROC_MAN]
	[COPY_TAGS_FROM:BIRD_ROC]
	[APPLY_CREATURE_VARIATION:ANIMAL_PERSON]
	[GO_TO_END]
	[SELECT_CASTE:MALE]
		[CASTE_NAME:roc man:roc men:roc man]
	[SELECT_CASTE:FEMALE]
		[CASTE_NAME:roc woman:roc women:roc woman]
	[SELECT_CASTE:ALL]
	[APPLY_CREATURE_VARIATION:PUNCH_ATTACK]
	[APPLY_CREATURE_VARIATION:KICK_ATTACK]
	[APPLY_CREATURE_VARIATION:BEAK_BITE_ATTACK]
	[APPLY_CREATURE_VARIATION:STANDARD_BIPED_GAITS:900:691:482:251:1900:2900] 35 kph
	[APPLY_CREATURE_VARIATION:STANDARD_FLYING_GAITS:900:528:352:176:1900:2900] 50 kph
	[APPLY_CREATURE_VARIATION:STANDARD_CLIMBING_GAITS:2990:2257:1525:731:4300:6100] 12 kph
	[APPLY_CREATURE_VARIATION:STANDARD_SWIMMING_GAITS:2990:2257:1525:731:4300:6100] 12 kph
	[APPLY_CREATURE_VARIATION:STANDARD_CRAWLING_GAITS:2990:2257:1525:731:4300:6100] 12 kph
	[GO_TO_START]
	[NAME:roc man:roc men:roc man]
	[DESCRIPTION:A person with the head and wings of a roc.]
	[POPULATION_NUMBER:5:10]
	[CLUSTER_NUMBER:1:1]
	[CREATURE_TILE:'R']
	[COLOR:7:0:1]

Would probably look something like this.

Comito · « **Reply #11 on:** December 13, 2015, 09:17:11 pm »

Oh man. You're awesome, BlackFlyme.

Where do I stick that again?

BlackFlyme · « **Reply #12 on:** December 13, 2015, 09:18:01 pm »

Any creature file will do. May want to stick it near the Roc, in creature_standard though.

Comito · « **Reply #13 on:** December 13, 2015, 10:16:50 pm »

Added a couple missing tags and made a roc man adventurer. Thanks again for that code.

Alas, seems like everyone's terrified of the gigantic bird-man despite his attempts at being sociable.

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

BlackFlyme · « **Reply #14 on:** December 13, 2015, 10:19:13 pm »

I got that before while playing as a minotaur. Likely because you are a megabeast/other significant predator.

You can be the nation's greatest hero, but they will still shun you.

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