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[Dozebôm Lolumzalìs]

How would I make a reaction require a certain leaf growth as reagent?

How can I make a building buildable by any dwarf? Or can I even do that?

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I have this great idea: dwarves need light. Tallow or oil could be made into a candle. Herbs could also be added for scent. Four candles (or so) of the same type (unscented vs scented, that is, not pig tallow vs rock nut oil) would be burned at a special 1-tile workshop called a "lamp" or whatever, creating an immobile "fire" (a creature). The fire would emit light (and scent, if scented candles were used to make a scented fire) regularly, which are just like FB gas, except not dangerous. They would (somehow) make dwarves happier. If a dwarf goes too long without being exposed to light, he gets a bad thought.

Questions:

1. How would I create this "fire" creature? That is, how do I make it immobile, live one year old, unable to fight, unable to be attacked... I know that a bug makes very small creatures invincible. Bonus points if water "puts it out".

2. How do I make it emit "light" and "scent" gas?

3. How do I make this gas give happy thoughts?

4. How do I make dwarves get "scared", bad thoughts if they go too long without "seeing" (read: being exposed to) light?

[ThatZommy]

How would I make a reaction require a certain leaf growth as reagent?

How can I make a building buildable by any dwarf? Or can I even do that?

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I have this great idea: dwarves need light. Tallow or oil could be made into a candle. Herbs could also be added for scent. Four candles (or so) of the same type (unscented vs scented, that is, not pig tallow vs rock nut oil) would be burned at a special 1-tile workshop called a "lamp" or whatever, creating an immobile "fire" (a creature). The fire would emit light (and scent, if scented candles were used to make a scented fire) regularly, which are just like FB gas, except not dangerous. They would (somehow) make dwarves happier. If a dwarf goes too long without being exposed to light, he gets a bad thought.

Questions:

1. How would I create this "fire" creature? That is, how do I make it immobile, live one year old, unable to fight, unable to be attacked... I know that a bug makes very small creatures invincible. Bonus points if water "puts it out".

2. How do I make it emit "light" and "scent" gas?

3. How do I make this gas give happy thoughts?

4. How do I make dwarves get "scared", bad thoughts if they go too long without "seeing" (read: being exposed to) light?

I'm stupid, but I might be able to help a bit.

1- You'd want to do this.
Set [MAXAGE:(number):(number)] to [MAXAGE:1:2]. I don't think you can have 1:1, or just [MAXAGE:1], but I could be wrong.
As for not being able to attack, adding [AT_PEACE_WITH_NATURE] (I think that's the token) and some no-emotion-y tokens would help, but any creature can use the push attack to my knowledge. And it could still get attacked, but if you do something like make it out of adamantine it shouldn't die, and in fact you could give it the "doesn't need a brain" tokens so it's just a floating blob of cyan.

2-
You could have it immolate, so it is constantly on fire, but that could become an issue when near alcohol I think. I think there's a token for just producing light, but I'm not certain.
As for the gas, I believe Dorfs like mist... Though water isn't in the raws, is it? You'll want to use a mist breath attack, I think, but I'm not sure how to make it feel good to the dwarves.

3-
No idea, sorry.

4-
I don't think that is possible. It's possible I'm wrong, but I don't know.

Back to 1-
Oh, immobility. No idea. I don't think taking away gaits stops the creature from using them, but I've not messed around with them much. Maybe you could give the gaits absurd numbers so it'll take years before it can move? Is that possible?

But yeah, ignore me, I'm stupid.

[Dozebôm Lolumzalìs]

I was thinking something along the lines of an interaction of the flame that spews gas everywhere. The gas would be a certain inorganic that induces a syndrome in any dwarf it touches.

As for the "scared of the dark", perhaps a syndrome that relies on another syndrome not being active? I'm not sure if something like that can work.

[ThatZommy]

I was thinking something along the lines of an interaction of the flame that spews gas everywhere. The gas would be a certain inorganic that induces a syndrome in any dwarf it touches.

As for the "scared of the dark", perhaps a syndrome that relies on another syndrome not being active? I'm not sure if something like that can work.

I'm not sure what would make them "happier" per say, but you could maybe lower their gait and then have the syndrome make them faster, so if they go without the gas they would become slower. Not sure syndromes can affect mood, but I'm probably wrong.

[Trainzack]

I was thinking something along the lines of an interaction of the flame that spews gas everywhere. The gas would be a certain inorganic that induces a syndrome in any dwarf it touches.

As for the "scared of the dark", perhaps a syndrome that relies on another syndrome not being active? I'm not sure if something like that can work.

I'm not sure what would make them "happier" per say, but you could maybe lower their gait and then have the syndrome make them faster, so if they go without the gas they would become slower. Not sure syndromes can affect mood, but I'm probably wrong.

Didn't the new version add a tag to affect emotions? Used for alcoholism now, I think.

[ThatZommy]

I was thinking something along the lines of an interaction of the flame that spews gas everywhere. The gas would be a certain inorganic that induces a syndrome in any dwarf it touches.

As for the "scared of the dark", perhaps a syndrome that relies on another syndrome not being active? I'm not sure if something like that can work.

I'm not sure what would make them "happier" per say, but you could maybe lower their gait and then have the syndrome make them faster, so if they go without the gas they would become slower. Not sure syndromes can affect mood, but I'm probably wrong.

Didn't the new version add a tag to affect emotions? Used for alcoholism now, I think.

That's what I thought, so I skimmed the syndrome token wiki thing. Didn't see anything, but I could have missed it.

[Dozebôm Lolumzalìs]

A "counter trigger" is the opposite of a trigger in that it prevents the syndrome from occurring, right? (See the wiki page on syndromes, near the bottom.)

If so, how do I make it so that a particular syndrome only triggers if CAVE_ADAPT is greater than a certain number?

Edit: Nvm, I think the "counter trigger" only applies to creature effects. If I'm wrong, my previous question still stands. If I'm right, I have a larger question.

What is the behavior of syndrome "cancellation" or stopping in the middle? Is there a way to stop a syndrome in the middle of its effects?

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Perhaps this might be better:

How do I make it so that dwarves trigger a certain syndrome when they have been in the dark too long, and not otherwise?. I'm sure I have to use both interactions and syndromes, and fairly sure I might be able to hitch a ride on the [CAVE_ADAPT] counter. But that all rests on whether I can alter [CAVE_ADAPT]. Can I?

[Putnam]

A "counter trigger" is the opposite of a trigger in that it prevents the syndrome from occurring, right? (See the wiki page on syndromes, near the bottom.)

You misunderstand what "counter" means there. It means trigger on counter--once the counter is within this range, trigger the syndrome.

[Dozebôm Lolumzalìs]

That is EXACTLY what I needed! I take it I just need to set the maximum for a very large value. Thank you, Putnam!

Also,

1. How does "cancellation" work? That is, is it possible for a syndrome in effect (say, a year-long "darkness fear" syndrome) to be interrupted by another one?

2. Can a syndrome affect cave adaptation?

[Putnam]

1. it doesn't, there is no cancellation

2. no

[Dozebôm Lolumzalìs]

Is it possible to affect adaptation with DFHack?

If Syndrome A is triggered on the first of Granite, and lasts one month, and is triggered again on the last day of Granite, does the syndrome continue for another month?

Is there a way to make it so either syndrome A is active or syndrome B is active, but never both?

[Putnam]

1. yes, not sure which it is but i'm pretty sure it's a specific_ref
2. yeah, i think that's what happens, it also refreshes if they have that syn_class whatsit that was added in 0.42.01
3. make the syndrome only transmittable through interaction and use [IT_CANNOT_HAVE_SYNDROME_CLASS:syn class]

[Dozebôm Lolumzalìs]

If a syndrome needs a certain counter to trigger, does it count as present before the counter is reached?

[Hyperion]

If I'm reading that right, your interaction multiplies your strength by 10x, then adds another 5,000 points to the character's strength.

It also makes the creature's effective skill 10,000%  higher 100% of the time.

The creature also doesn't have much instructions on how to use the interaction. The AI will be attempting to use the interaction on itself every five ticks, even though the effects will only apply once.

That was the intention, yes, but it doesn't change anything at all

[Dozebôm Lolumzalìs]

Here's my setup. Can somebody make sure I didn't screw up humongously? I'll be testing soon, but would rather I don't gen a world and set up a fortress just to find that a stupid mistake needs a regen.

Spoiler: in creature_standard, in (CREATURE:DWARF) (click to show/hide)

   [CAN_DO_INTERACTION:FEAR]
      [CDI:ADV_NAME:Fear the night]
      [CDI:TARGET:SELF_ONLY]
      [CDI:VERB:feel the night closing in on you. The shadows are beginning to move:feels the night closing in on them]
      [CDI:FREE_ACTION]

Spoiler: in inorganic_jwood (click to show/hide)

[INORGANIC:LIGHT]
   [USE_MATERIAL_TEMPLATE:STONE_VAPOR_TEMPLATE]
   [STATE_NAME:ALL_SOLID:a cloud of light]
   [STATE_ADJ:ALL_SOLID:light]
   [STATE_NAME:LIQUID:a mist of liquid light]
   [STATE_ADJ:LIQUID:liquid light]
   [STATE_NAME:GAS:a cloud of gaseous light]
   [STATE_ADJ:GAS:gaseous light]
   [PREFIX:NONE]
   [SYNDROME]
      [SYN_NAME:light comfort (protection from night fears)]
      [SYN_AFFECTED_CLASS:CREATURE_CLASS:GENERAL_POISON]
      [SYN_CLASS:LIGHT_COMFORT]
      [SYN_INJECTED][SYN_CONTACT][SYN_INHALED][SYN_INGESTED]
      [CE_CAN_DO_INTERACTION:CDI:INTERACTION:LIGHTCOMFORT:START:0:END:201600]

[INORGANIC:SCENT]
   [USE_MATERIAL_TEMPLATE:STONE_VAPOR_TEMPLATE]
   [STATE_NAME:ALL_SOLID:a cloud of pleasant scent]
   [STATE_ADJ:ALL_SOLID:solid scent]
   [STATE_NAME:LIQUID:a mist of pleasant scent]
   [STATE_ADJ:LIQUID:liquid scent]
   [STATE_NAME:GAS:a cloud of pleasant scent]
   [STATE_ADJ:GAS:gaseous scent]
   [PREFIX:NONE]
   [SYNDROME]
      [SYN_NAME:happy scent (gives a happy thought)]
      [SYN_AFFECTED_CLASS:CREATURE_CLASS:GENERAL_POISON]
      [SYN_CLASS:SCENT_HAPPINESS]
      [SYN_INJECTED][SYN_CONTACT][SYN_INHALED][SYN_INGESTED]
      [CE_CAN_DO_INTERACTION:CDI:INTERACTION:SCENTHAPPINESS:START:0:END:100800]
      [CE_FEEL_EMOTION:EMOTION:BLISS:SEV:25:PROB:100:SIZE_DILUTES:START:10:PEAK:120:END:480:DWF_STRETCH:4]

Spoiler: interaction_jwood (click to show/hide)

[INTERACTION:FEAR]
   [I_SOURCE:CREATURE_ACTION]
   [I_TARGET:CREATURE]
      [IT_LOCATION:CONTEXT_CREATURE]
      [IT_MANUAL_INPUT:creature]
   [IT_AFFECTED_CLASS:GENERAL_POISON]
   [IT_FORBIDDEN:NOFEAR]
   [IT_CANNOT_TARGET_IF_ALREADY_AFFECTED]
   [IT_CANNOT_HAVE_SYNDROME_CLASS:LIGHT_COMFORT]
   [I_EFFECT:ADD_SYNDROME]
   [IE_INTERMITTENT:WEEKLY]
   [IE_ARENA_NAME:fear the night]
      [SYNDROME]
      [CE_FEEL_EMOTION:EMOTION:PANIC:SEV:1000:PROB:100:START:10:PEAK:525:END:2100:DWF_STRETCH:4]
      [CE:COUNTER_TRIGGER:CAVE_ADAPT:201600]

Will this work? Did I forget to upload an important file?

(Ignore the "can do interaction: lightcomfort" part, and assume that I've found a way to give "scent" and "light" to dwarves with a lamp.)